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**From:** Poore-Pariseau, Cindy**Date:** Thu, Sep 20 2012 12:40PM
**Subject:** Math

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Greetings,

I am looking for guidance on how to provide access to Intermediate Algebra for 2 college students who are blind. Can JAWS be used effectively to allow access to math textbooks? Or is Braille a must? How about a refreshable Braille display, is this an effective solution?

Any guidance you can provide will be most appreciated. Thank you.

"If we teach today as we taught yesterday, we rob our children of tomorrow" ~John Dewey

Cindy Poore-Pariseau, Ph. D.

Bristol Community College

Coordinator of Disability Services

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**From:** Lucy Greco**Date:** Thu, Sep 20 2012 1:06PM
**Subject:** Re: Math
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math is the hardist thing to make accessable. but you can do it. using

tools like math jax and math ml with the math player. its pritty

intensive but if you do it write it can work. check out the folliing

links

http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/tech/

http://www.mathjax.org/resources/articles-and-presentations/accessible-pages-with-mathjax/

hope this helps lucy

**From:** Noble,Stephen L.**Date:** Thu, Sep 20 2012 1:14PM
**Subject:** Re: Math
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The ultimate answer will in part be dependent upon the user's need and customary way of reading mathematics...but here are the options:

1) Mathematics can be rendered in speech through the use of Mathematical Markup Language (MathML). To get JAWS to correctly read the math, the student needs to use Internet Explorer and install the free MathPlayer plug-in. This assumes the content is created as HTML+MathML, XHTML+MathML, or using HTML with MathJax. Another route is saving the content as DAISY+MathML and using ReadHear, which is a DAISY reader which can handle MathML. If you want to do ePub3, there's also the accessible IDEAL ePub reader for the Android platform which supports MathML.

2) Currently, no vendor supports refreshable braille access to math braille. You only get computer braille, which is of limited value for math. This is unfortunate, but there is some work being done on that problem.

3) Having hard copy math braille is often considered essential for studying college-level mathematics. This is especially true if the student is already trained in reading math braille (in the US, it is Nemeth math braille code).

4) Some blind students who go into the science or math fields decide to learn LaTeX, which is a simple qwerty math code that has been around for decades and is still used by many sighted math college professors. That's one other possible way of providing access...but again it is dependent upon the student.

Here are a few resources you may want to consult:

http://www.access2science.com/

http://www.dessci.com/en/solutions/access/

Hope that helps!

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**From:** Ryan E. Benson**Date:** Sun, Sep 23 2012 12:29PM
**Subject:** Re: Math
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> 3) Having hard copy math braille is often considered essential for studying college-level mathematics.

> This is especially true if the student is already trained in reading math braille (in the US, it is

> Nemeth math braille code).

I agree with Steve here. At the university I used to work at, the two

students that took math courses solely relied on Nemeth. The

disability service office found somebody who could covert the math to

LaTeX, and I would convert that into Nemeth.

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Ryan E. Benson

**From:** Iza Bartosiewicz**Date:** Thu, Sep 27 2012 2:25AM
**Subject:** Re: Math
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:40 PM Poore-Pariseau, Cindy wrote:

> ...I am looking for guidance on how to provide access to Intermediate

Algebra for 2 college students who are blind.

Hi Cindy,

Here's another resource that might provide you with some guidance:

Effective Practices for Description of Science Content within Digital

Talking Books

http://ncam.wgbh.org/experience_learn/educational_media/stemdx

"This website provides both general guidelines that should be followed when

describing STEM images and many examples of how the guidelines can be

implemented. The guidelines are the result of a seminal 4-year effort

encompassing multiple surveys with describers and with students and

scientists with vision loss to research preferred practices for description

of visual information in textbooks and journals."

cheers

Iza

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