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From: Howard Kramer
Date: Thu, Mar 21 2013 4:05PM
Subject: feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal & Wordpress
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Hello All:
(please excuse any cross-posts)
As part of an effort to include more UD & accessibility content in
curriculum, I'm working to develop an online class on the topic listed in
the subject line above: Introduction to Universal Design for CMS: focus on
Drupal & WordPress. I'm looking for feedback on what would be considered a
target or appropriate audience.
*Audience & Prerequisites*
My thoughts were that a requirement for the class should be either
experience with some type of CMS, preferably Drupal or Wordpress or
experience coding directly with html & css. Those without one leg of this
requirement would be advised to take a tutorial in the area they are
unfamiliar with.
(Those without either would only be allowed to take the class if they took
tutorials in both areas, demonstrating that they were able to create at
least basic sites either in both CMS and html/css).
*Proposed Content for Class*
- Accessibility Standards
- Universal Design Overview
- Universal Design vs. Accessibility - what's the difference, what's the
overlap
- Drupal theme engine - creating accessible themes
- Testing for accessible Drupal themes
- Accessibility features and tools in Drupal
- Creating accessible themes in WordPress
- Testing & choosing accessible plugins for Wordpress
- Final project: using either Drupal or WordPress
*I'd appreciate any feedback on suggestions on*
- prerequisite skills (agree or disagree with what I have above).
- Suggestions for different types of audiences to market to.
- Suggested content
- anything you think relevant
Thank you,
Howard
--
Howard Kramer
CO-PI - UDUC
*Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula*(UDUC)
Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668
From: John E Brandt
Date: Fri, Mar 22 2013 2:25PM
Subject: Re: feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal &Wordpress
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Hi Howard,
When I read your posting, I initially thought that your audience could be
general CMS (Drupal & WP) users at the higher end of access (editors and
content developers) as well as site admins and general developers such as
myself. But then I read the proposed content for the class and saw several
sections on theming/template development - and that's a whole different
kettle of fish. I'm, thinking you could have three courses.
I've steered clear of "theming" (I work in Drupal, WordPress and Joomla) as
it can get very complicated, very quickly and is very specific to the
specific CMS application. I have taken some open themes and "theme
generator" like Fusion in Drupal and done some customizing, but this is far
from actual theme/template development. Add to this the whole new focus on
adaptive/responsive theming and you've raised the stakes even further. Then
there is the issue of major changes in the CMS core which often means a
whole new way of theming. So, I think there could be accessibility training
program just for theme developers. Lord knows, most of the CMS themes out
there are far from accessible.
Second, there is still the need for accessibility training for developers
and site admins and this one could focus on modules, plugins and extensions,
knowing how to pick a theme that is accessible and tweak it as needed. You
could talk about which text editor to use and issues related to the use of
scripting.
Lastly, since most of the accessibility errors in CMSs come from uses who
don't add ALT descriptions or know about how to embed URLs, or the proper
use of headings, or the importance of captioning video.... there is a need
for a third course to content creators and editors.
Not sure this has been of much help...I think I just increased your work
load.
~j
John E. Brandt
www.jebswebs.com
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207-622-7937
Augusta, Maine, USA
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To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal &
Wordpress
Hello All:
(please excuse any cross-posts)
As part of an effort to include more UD & accessibility content in
curriculum, I'm working to develop an online class on the topic listed in
the subject line above: Introduction to Universal Design for CMS: focus on
Drupal & WordPress. I'm looking for feedback on what would be considered a
target or appropriate audience.
*Audience & Prerequisites*
My thoughts were that a requirement for the class should be either
experience with some type of CMS, preferably Drupal or Wordpress or
experience coding directly with html & css. Those without one leg of this
requirement would be advised to take a tutorial in the area they are
unfamiliar with.
(Those without either would only be allowed to take the class if they took
tutorials in both areas, demonstrating that they were able to create at
least basic sites either in both CMS and html/css).
*Proposed Content for Class*
- Accessibility Standards
- Universal Design Overview
- Universal Design vs. Accessibility - what's the difference, what's the
overlap
- Drupal theme engine - creating accessible themes
- Testing for accessible Drupal themes
- Accessibility features and tools in Drupal
- Creating accessible themes in WordPress
- Testing & choosing accessible plugins for Wordpress
- Final project: using either Drupal or WordPress
*I'd appreciate any feedback on suggestions on*
- prerequisite skills (agree or disagree with what I have above).
- Suggestions for different types of audiences to market to.
- Suggested content
- anything you think relevant
Thank you,
Howard
--
Howard Kramer
CO-PI - UDUC
*Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University
Curricula*(UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668
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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Fri, Mar 22 2013 2:43PM
Subject: Re: feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal & Wordpress
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Howard and all:
As appropriate, though it's neither WordPress or Drupal specific, I
hope you will consider and adapt the recently-released training
materials from WAI's Education and Outreach Working Group:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/training/
It also occurs to me that you might find useful information in the
Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG). Or perhaps your
students would at least want to be aware of them in case they begin
to contribute back to these communities. I believe that this is the
link to the current "Last Call" Working Draft:
http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/
Best,
Jennifer
From: Howard Kramer
Date: Sat, Mar 23 2013 12:08PM
Subject: Re: feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal & Wordpress
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Thanks Brandt. That's very helpful and sensible. You provided lot's for me
and the two proposed instructors to discuss. I may be back for a follow-up
opinion as we move forward.
Regards,
Howard
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John E Brandt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Howard,
>
> When I read your posting, I initially thought that your audience could be
> general CMS (Drupal & WP) users at the higher end of access (editors and
> content developers) as well as site admins and general developers such as
> myself. But then I read the proposed content for the class and saw several
> sections on theming/template development - and that's a whole different
> kettle of fish. I'm, thinking you could have three courses.
>
> I've steered clear of "theming" (I work in Drupal, WordPress and Joomla) as
> it can get very complicated, very quickly and is very specific to the
> specific CMS application. I have taken some open themes and "theme
> generator" like Fusion in Drupal and done some customizing, but this is far
> from actual theme/template development. Add to this the whole new focus on
> adaptive/responsive theming and you've raised the stakes even further. Then
> there is the issue of major changes in the CMS core which often means a
> whole new way of theming. So, I think there could be accessibility
> training
> program just for theme developers. Lord knows, most of the CMS themes out
> there are far from accessible.
>
> Second, there is still the need for accessibility training for developers
> and site admins and this one could focus on modules, plugins and
> extensions,
> knowing how to pick a theme that is accessible and tweak it as needed. You
> could talk about which text editor to use and issues related to the use of
> scripting.
>
> Lastly, since most of the accessibility errors in CMSs come from uses who
> don't add ALT descriptions or know about how to embed URLs, or the proper
> use of headings, or the importance of captioning video.... there is a need
> for a third course to content creators and editors.
>
> Not sure this has been of much help...I think I just increased your work
> load.
>
> ~j
>
> John E. Brandt
> www.jebswebs.com
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 207-622-7937
> Augusta, Maine, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:05 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal &
> Wordpress
>
> Hello All:
>
> (please excuse any cross-posts)
>
> As part of an effort to include more UD & accessibility content in
> curriculum, I'm working to develop an online class on the topic listed in
> the subject line above: Introduction to Universal Design for CMS: focus on
> Drupal & WordPress. I'm looking for feedback on what would be considered a
> target or appropriate audience.
>
> *Audience & Prerequisites*
>
> My thoughts were that a requirement for the class should be either
> experience with some type of CMS, preferably Drupal or Wordpress or
> experience coding directly with html & css. Those without one leg of this
> requirement would be advised to take a tutorial in the area they are
> unfamiliar with.
> (Those without either would only be allowed to take the class if they took
> tutorials in both areas, demonstrating that they were able to create at
> least basic sites either in both CMS and html/css).
>
> *Proposed Content for Class*
>
> - Accessibility Standards
> - Universal Design Overview
> - Universal Design vs. Accessibility - what's the difference, what's the
> overlap
> - Drupal theme engine - creating accessible themes
> - Testing for accessible Drupal themes
> - Accessibility features and tools in Drupal
> - Creating accessible themes in WordPress
> - Testing & choosing accessible plugins for Wordpress
> - Final project: using either Drupal or WordPress
>
>
> *I'd appreciate any feedback on suggestions on*
> - prerequisite skills (agree or disagree with what I have above).
> - Suggestions for different types of audiences to market to.
> - Suggested content
> - anything you think relevant
>
> Thank you,
> Howard
>
>
> --
> Howard Kramer
> CO-PI - UDUC
> *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University
> Curricula*(UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin
> 303-492-8672
> cell: 720-351-8668
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > >
--
Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668
AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability
From: Howard Kramer
Date: Sat, Mar 23 2013 12:13PM
Subject: Re: feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal & Wordpress
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Hi Jennifer,
I recently began working with the education and outreach working group so
I've been taking a closer look at the training resources and they're
excellent. I definitely will be thinking about how to incorporate and use
these resources in various curriculum.
Thanks,
Howard
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> Howard and all:
>
> As appropriate, though it's neither WordPress or Drupal specific, I
> hope you will consider and adapt the recently-released training
> materials from WAI's Education and Outreach Working Group:
>
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/training/
>
>
> It also occurs to me that you might find useful information in the
> Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG). Or perhaps your
> students would at least want to be aware of them in case they begin
> to contribute back to these communities. I believe that this is the
> link to the current "Last Call" Working Draft:
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/
>
>
> Best,
> Jennifer
>
> > > >
--
Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668
AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability