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From: Hoger, Jodie
Date: Mon, May 20 2013 6:42PM
Subject: joomla accessibility
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Hi Gang, we are setting up an institute project using the joomla web template. Need to know how accessible this platform is and whether there are any tools that will assist.
Thanks,
jo
Jodie Hoger
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From: Joshue O Connor
Date: Tue, May 21 2013 8:16AM
Subject: Re: joomla accessibility
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Hi Jodie,
With a title like that, I had to bite..
I'm a fan of Joomla!. IMO, at one stage it was one of the best in term
of it's over all accessibility but others have certainly come on leaps
and bounds from both a front and back end perspective. However, Drupal
is another fave. As someone said if they got together and only had
offspring...
Joomla! AFAIK, has a new (ish) accessible admin template called 'Hathor'
which is WAI-ARIA enabled IIRC. It doesn't (or didn't) have this out of
the box, like Drupal.
FWIW, I think Joomla! pips the post for ease of use over Drupal esp out
of the box for first timers, so this could be a factor for you. However,
I suggest taking them both for a spin and getting your people to test
them. Some screen reader users may find the Drupal back end more
accessible for example.
In terms of what they output they are both capable of creating
accessible content.
HTH
Josh
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From: John E Brandt
Date: Tue, May 21 2013 10:00AM
Subject: Re: joomla accessibility
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Jo,
If you are asking about the back end, I will defer to Joshue who appears to
know.
As far as front-end, user-experience...much of the accessibility will be
related to template being used. Some templates are better than others. Look
for ones that are built to WC3 standards.
The "core" function of Joomla is currently fairly accessible (depends on
what standards you are needing to meet). The only thing that shows up on all
my Joomla sites - so I suspect it is a problem with the core - is the lack
of a LANG declaration. I have not been able to figure out (yet) how to get
the language declaration into Joomla. Anyone got a hint?
And of course one has to always remember that a CMS is only as good as the
people who create content! Training is essential.
~j
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Augusta, Maine, USA
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Subject: [WebAIM] joomla accessibility
Hi Gang, we are setting up an institute project using the joomla web
template. Need to know how accessible this platform is and whether there are
any tools that will assist.
Thanks,
jo
Jodie Hoger
Teacher Consultant (Vision), Equity Services TAFE NSW - Illawarra Institute
Building L1.14, 60 Bienda St, Bomaderry, NSW, 2541 VOIP 54865 P 02 4421
9865 M 0437 035 042 F 02 4421 9804 = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
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From: Jim Allan
Date: Tue, May 21 2013 1:32PM
Subject: Re: joomla accessibility
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John,
the lang declaration is part of the template. Actually, when you did the
install it asked you what language you wanted (English-Great Brittan) was
the default. It, the lang declaration, goes in the database. That value
gets inserted into my milkyway template. I am sure other templates have
something similar.
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="<?php echo
$this->language; ?>" lang="<?php echo $this->language; ?>" >
You could always hard code it into the template and then it is on every
page.
Jim
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John E Brandt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Jo,
>
> If you are asking about the back end, I will defer to Joshue who appears to
> know.
>
> As far as front-end, user-experience...much of the accessibility will be
> related to template being used. Some templates are better than others. Look
> for ones that are built to WC3 standards.
>
> The "core" function of Joomla is currently fairly accessible (depends on
> what standards you are needing to meet). The only thing that shows up on
> all
> my Joomla sites - so I suspect it is a problem with the core - is the lack
> of a LANG declaration. I have not been able to figure out (yet) how to get
> the language declaration into Joomla. Anyone got a hint?
>
> And of course one has to always remember that a CMS is only as good as the
> people who create content! Training is essential.
>
> ~j
>
> John E. Brandt
> www.jebswebs.com
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 207-622-7937
> Augusta, Maine, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Hoger, Jodie
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:43 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
> Subject: [WebAIM] joomla accessibility
>
> Hi Gang, we are setting up an institute project using the joomla web
> template. Need to know how accessible this platform is and whether there
> are
> any tools that will assist.
> Thanks,
> jo
>
> Jodie Hoger
> Teacher Consultant (Vision), Equity Services TAFE NSW - Illawarra Institute
> Building L1.14, 60 Bienda St, Bomaderry, NSW, 2541 VOIP 54865 P 02 4421
> 9865 M 0437 035 042 F 02 4421 9804 = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> www.illawarra.tafensw.edu.au Proverb Give a person a fish and they will
> have
> food for a day. Teach a person to fish and they will have food for life.
>
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"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
From: Jim Allan
Date: Tue, May 21 2013 1:34PM
Subject: Re: joomla accessibility
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opps! meant to type Britain
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> John,
> the lang declaration is part of the template. Actually, when you did the
> install it asked you what language you wanted (English-Great Brittan) was
> the default. It, the lang declaration, goes in the database. That value
> gets inserted into my milkyway template. I am sure other templates have
> something similar.
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="<?php echo
> $this->language; ?>" lang="<?php echo $this->language; ?>" >
>
> You could always hard code it into the template and then it is on every
> page.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John E Brandt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Jo,
>>
>> If you are asking about the back end, I will defer to Joshue who appears
>> to
>> know.
>>
>> As far as front-end, user-experience...much of the accessibility will be
>> related to template being used. Some templates are better than others.
>> Look
>> for ones that are built to WC3 standards.
>>
>> The "core" function of Joomla is currently fairly accessible (depends on
>> what standards you are needing to meet). The only thing that shows up on
>> all
>> my Joomla sites - so I suspect it is a problem with the core - is the lack
>> of a LANG declaration. I have not been able to figure out (yet) how to get
>> the language declaration into Joomla. Anyone got a hint?
>>
>> And of course one has to always remember that a CMS is only as good as the
>> people who create content! Training is essential.
>>
>> ~j
>>
>> John E. Brandt
>> www.jebswebs.com
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> 207-622-7937
>> Augusta, Maine, USA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Hoger, Jodie
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:43 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
>> Subject: [WebAIM] joomla accessibility
>>
>> Hi Gang, we are setting up an institute project using the joomla web
>> template. Need to know how accessible this platform is and whether there
>> are
>> any tools that will assist.
>> Thanks,
>> jo
>>
>> Jodie Hoger
>> Teacher Consultant (Vision), Equity Services TAFE NSW - Illawarra
>> Institute
>> Building L1.14, 60 Bienda St, Bomaderry, NSW, 2541 VOIP 54865 P 02 4421
>> 9865 M 0437 035 042 F 02 4421 9804 = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> www.illawarra.tafensw.edu.au Proverb Give a person a fish and they will
>> have
>> food for a day. Teach a person to fish and they will have food for life.
>>
>> **********************************************************************
>> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
>> privileged
>> information or confidential information or both. If you are not the
>> intended
>> recipient please delete it and notify the sender.
>> **********************************************************************
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>>
>> >> >> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
>
--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964