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From: Tania
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 1:07AM
Subject: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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Hello web aim experts,

The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
provide advice so I hope you can help.

Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
for this website:

www.airasia.com/asia

Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
on the site.

This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
blind here.

Thank you

Best regards,

Tania

From: Jacob Kruger
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 1:25AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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Hi there - first post to list

Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends on
how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. - I
myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle screenreaders,
etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound effect
playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.

And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another possibility
have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of something
like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like this
where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others content
elements, etc.?

Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper around
normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but, it,
in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> Hello web aim experts,
>
> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>
> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
> for this website:
>
> www.airasia.com/asia
>
> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
> on the site.
>
> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
> blind here.
>
> Thank you
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tania
>
> > > >

From: Tania
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 2:01AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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Hi Jacob,
I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
Sigh...
Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
make it less hellish.

thanks

respectfully
tania

On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> Hi there - first post to list
>
> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends on
> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. - I
> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle screenreaders,
> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound effect
> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
>
> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another possibility
> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of something
> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like this
> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others content
> elements, etc.?
>
> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper around
> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but, it,
> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
>> Hello web aim experts,
>>
>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>
>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>> for this website:
>>
>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>
>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>> on the site.
>>
>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>> blind here.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tania
>>
>> >> >> >>
> > > >

From: Jacob Kruger
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 2:27AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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The problem/fact is just that jQuery itself doesn't affect the accessibility
of the content/output, but, it's just a wrapper/tool for making it
easier/simpler to handle content manipulation, and implement dynamic HTML
manipulation, etc., and, yes, that can be quite inaccessible/irritating -
all I was saying is that jQuery itself isn't the issue...<smile>

In other words, sorry, but, if the site developers don't want to cooperate,
there wouldn't be too much you could do, other than trying to do something
like the greaseMonkey wrapper I spoke of, since it might let you work around
others accessibility implementation issues, but, that would also require
quite a bit of exploration/investigation into their site's contents, and
then some javascript scripting as well.

There are also already greaseMonkey wrapper sharing sites out there where
people share what they've put together for other sites, etc., but, don't
think you'd necessarily find too many accessibility specific implementations
already submitted/shared on them either, and it also really depends on the
size of the target site's target market as well.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> Hi Jacob,
> I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
> Sigh...
> Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
> use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
> make it less hellish.
>
> thanks
>
> respectfully
> tania
>
> On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>> Hi there - first post to list
>>
>> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends on
>> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. - I
>> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle
>> screenreaders,
>> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound
>> effect
>> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
>>
>> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another possibility
>> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of
>> something
>> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
>> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
>> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like
>> this
>> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others content
>> elements, etc.?
>>
>> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper
>> around
>> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
>> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but,
>> it,
>> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>
>>
>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>
>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>
>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>> for this website:
>>>
>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>
>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>> on the site.
>>>
>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>> blind here.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Tania
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>
> > > >

From: Paul J. Adam
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 1:09PM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type a date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.

This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date picker please let us know.

Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html

Thanks!

Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist
www.deque.com

On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello web aim experts,
>
> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>
> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
> for this website:
>
> www.airasia.com/asia
>
> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
> on the site.
>
> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
> blind here.
>
> Thank you
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tania
>
> > >

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 3:43PM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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The date picker at
http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
doesn't retain Applications Mode in JAWS14 using IE and FF, so you can't use
the arrow keys to navigate the calendar in a grid, nor use PageUp/PageDown
to switch months, etc, without manually doing this after the calendar is
opened.

However, the date picker at
http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(with%20Disabled%20Date%20Ranges)/demo.htm
does this automatically, and is part of the package at
https://github.com/accdc/tsg


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul J. Adam" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They
> also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type a
> date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not
> accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.
>
> This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few
> accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date
> picker please let us know.
>
> Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul J. Adam
> Accessibility Evangelist
> www.deque.com
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hello web aim experts,
>>
>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>
>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>> for this website:
>>
>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>
>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>> on the site.
>>
>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>> blind here.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tania
>>
>> >> >> >
> > >

From: Tania
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 8:17PM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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thanks alot Jim.
i will pass the info to them.
On 7/22/2013 3:09 AM, Paul J. Adam wrote:
> It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type a date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.
>
> This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date picker please let us know.
>
> Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul J. Adam
> Accessibility Evangelist
> www.deque.com
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hello web aim experts,
>>
>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>
>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>> for this website:
>>
>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>
>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>> on the site.
>>
>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>> blind here.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tania
>>
>> >> >> > > > > .
>

From: Tania
Date: Sun, Jul 21 2013 8:35PM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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hi Bryan,
i went to your webpage:

http://whatsock.com/tsg/


great work! for developers who do not know anything about coding for
accessibility, you had provided useful tips for them.

now there's one more app at the site that is giving problem. after
looking through your whatsup site, i am not sure which recommendations
apply to the app.
if you go to

www.airasia.com/asia


you are placed in 'return ticket' radio button box
arow 2 times down reaches the problematic app for choosing destination.
i don't know why sometimes it works and sometimes not. but finding the
right destination is difficult.

so which of the recommendations in your what's up page will deal with
the problem or it is not covered there?

thanks

best regards,
tania





On 7/22/2013 5:43 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> The date picker at
> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
> doesn't retain Applications Mode in JAWS14 using IE and FF, so you can't use
> the arrow keys to navigate the calendar in a grid, nor use PageUp/PageDown
> to switch months, etc, without manually doing this after the calendar is
> opened.
>
> However, the date picker at
> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(with%20Disabled%20Date%20Ranges)/demo.htm
> does this automatically, and is part of the package at
> https://github.com/accdc/tsg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul J. Adam" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
>> It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They
>> also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type a
>> date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not
>> accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.
>>
>> This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few
>> accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date
>> picker please let us know.
>>
>> Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
>> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Paul J. Adam
>> Accessibility Evangelist
>> www.deque.com
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>
>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>
>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>> for this website:
>>>
>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>
>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>> on the site.
>>>
>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>> blind here.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Tania
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >

From: Weissenberger, Todd M
Date: Mon, Jul 22 2013 5:20AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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You might look at some of these widgets from Hans Hillen's Accessible jQuery UI Components library. From what I've seen, they're pretty solid in terms of keyboard operability. Not sure how ARIA-enhanced they are. We're evaluating them right now for our application development teams.

http://access.aol.com/aegis/

Regards,
Todd

T.M. Weissenberger
Web Accessibility Coordinator
University of Iowa

From: Jacob Kruger [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 3:27 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation

The problem/fact is just that jQuery itself doesn't affect the accessibility
of the content/output, but, it's just a wrapper/tool for making it
easier/simpler to handle content manipulation, and implement dynamic HTML
manipulation, etc., and, yes, that can be quite inaccessible/irritating -
all I was saying is that jQuery itself isn't the issue...<smile>

In other words, sorry, but, if the site developers don't want to cooperate,
there wouldn't be too much you could do, other than trying to do something
like the greaseMonkey wrapper I spoke of, since it might let you work around
others accessibility implementation issues, but, that would also require
quite a bit of exploration/investigation into their site's contents, and
then some javascript scripting as well.

There are also already greaseMonkey wrapper sharing sites out there where
people share what they've put together for other sites, etc., but, don't
think you'd necessarily find too many accessibility specific implementations
already submitted/shared on them either, and it also really depends on the
size of the target site's target market as well.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> Hi Jacob,
> I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
> Sigh...
> Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
> use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
> make it less hellish.
>
> thanks
>
> respectfully
> tania
>
> On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>> Hi there - first post to list
>>
>> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends on
>> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. - I
>> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle
>> screenreaders,
>> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound
>> effect
>> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
>>
>> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another possibility
>> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of
>> something
>> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
>> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
>> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like
>> this
>> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others content
>> elements, etc.?
>>
>> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper
>> around
>> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
>> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but,
>> it,
>> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>
>>
>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>
>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from a
>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>
>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>> for this website:
>>>
>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>
>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>> on the site.
>>>
>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>> blind here.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Tania
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>
> > > >

From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Mon, Jul 22 2013 5:31AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
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If you are looking ta Hans' jquery widgets then best to look at them here:

http://hanshillen.github.io/jqtest/#goto_slider

as this is where he keeps them updated.

>Not sure how ARIA-enhanced they are.
Hans has applied ARIA as needed.

--

Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;


On 22 July 2013 12:20, Weissenberger, Todd M
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:

> You might look at some of these widgets from Hans Hillen's Accessible
> jQuery UI Components library. From what I've seen, they're pretty solid in
> terms of keyboard operability. Not sure how ARIA-enhanced they are. We're
> evaluating them right now for our application development teams.
>
> http://access.aol.com/aegis/
>
> Regards,
> Todd
>
> T.M. Weissenberger
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> University of Iowa
>
> > From: Jacob Kruger [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 3:27 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
> The problem/fact is just that jQuery itself doesn't affect the
> accessibility
> of the content/output, but, it's just a wrapper/tool for making it
> easier/simpler to handle content manipulation, and implement dynamic HTML
> manipulation, etc., and, yes, that can be quite inaccessible/irritating -
> all I was saying is that jQuery itself isn't the issue...<smile>
>
> In other words, sorry, but, if the site developers don't want to cooperate,
> there wouldn't be too much you could do, other than trying to do something
> like the greaseMonkey wrapper I spoke of, since it might let you work
> around
> others accessibility implementation issues, but, that would also require
> quite a bit of exploration/investigation into their site's contents, and
> then some javascript scripting as well.
>
> There are also already greaseMonkey wrapper sharing sites out there where
> people share what they've put together for other sites, etc., but, don't
> think you'd necessarily find too many accessibility specific
> implementations
> already submitted/shared on them either, and it also really depends on the
> size of the target site's target market as well.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
> > Hi Jacob,
> > I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
> > Sigh...
> > Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
> > use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
> > make it less hellish.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > respectfully
> > tania
> >
> > On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> >> Hi there - first post to list
> >>
> >> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends
> on
> >> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. -
> I
> >> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle
> >> screenreaders,
> >> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound
> >> effect
> >> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
> >>
> >> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another
> possibility
> >> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of
> >> something
> >> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
> >> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
> >> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like
> >> this
> >> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others
> content
> >> elements, etc.?
> >>
> >> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper
> >> around
> >> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
> >> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but,
> >> it,
> >> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
> >>
> >> Stay well
> >>
> >> Jacob Kruger
> >> Blind Biker
> >> Skype: BlindZA
> >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
> >> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello web aim experts,
> >>>
> >>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from
> a
> >>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
> >>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
> >>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
> >>>
> >>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
> >>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
> >>> for this website:
> >>>
> >>> www.airasia.com/asia
> >>>
> >>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
> >>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
> >>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
> >>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
> >>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
> >>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
> >>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
> >>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
> >>> on the site.
> >>>
> >>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
> >>> blind here.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Tania
> >>>
> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> > > > > > > >
>
>
> > > >

From: Jacob Kruger
Date: Mon, Jul 22 2013 6:42AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
← Previous message | Next message →

Only problem have had with keyboard operability is that screenreaders like
jaws block passing keystrokes through, unless forms mode is turned on, etc.,
etc.

I have also used a combination of jQuery and another form of component to
try implementing real-time sound effects in webpages, but, for example, the
one sort of drum machine webpage I put together to test/try this out, works
because I'm handling keystrokes from a textbox, which then operates with
forms mode turned on in both jaws and NVDA, etc.

That's if you're talking about/meaning catching normal keystrokes, aside
from the screenreaders own navigation keystrokes?

And, in case, here's that drum machine:
http://www.blindza.co.za/sm2/

That page also uses javascript to try record timing of events, and then try
play the sequence back, but, doesn't work perfectly due to caching, etc.

But, will definitely have a look at that library as well.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Weissenberger, Todd M" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> You might look at some of these widgets from Hans Hillen's Accessible
> jQuery UI Components library. From what I've seen, they're pretty solid
> in terms of keyboard operability. Not sure how ARIA-enhanced they are.
> We're evaluating them right now for our application development teams.
>
> http://access.aol.com/aegis/
>
> Regards,
> Todd
>
> T.M. Weissenberger
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> University of Iowa
>
> > From: Jacob Kruger [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 3:27 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
> The problem/fact is just that jQuery itself doesn't affect the
> accessibility
> of the content/output, but, it's just a wrapper/tool for making it
> easier/simpler to handle content manipulation, and implement dynamic HTML
> manipulation, etc., and, yes, that can be quite inaccessible/irritating -
> all I was saying is that jQuery itself isn't the issue...<smile>
>
> In other words, sorry, but, if the site developers don't want to
> cooperate,
> there wouldn't be too much you could do, other than trying to do something
> like the greaseMonkey wrapper I spoke of, since it might let you work
> around
> others accessibility implementation issues, but, that would also require
> quite a bit of exploration/investigation into their site's contents, and
> then some javascript scripting as well.
>
> There are also already greaseMonkey wrapper sharing sites out there where
> people share what they've put together for other sites, etc., but, don't
> think you'd necessarily find too many accessibility specific
> implementations
> already submitted/shared on them either, and it also really depends on the
> size of the target site's target market as well.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
>> Hi Jacob,
>> I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
>> Sigh...
>> Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
>> use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
>> make it less hellish.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> respectfully
>> tania
>>
>> On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>> Hi there - first post to list
>>>
>>> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends
>>> on
>>> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. -
>>> I
>>> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle
>>> screenreaders,
>>> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound
>>> effect
>>> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
>>>
>>> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another
>>> possibility
>>> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of
>>> something
>>> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
>>> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
>>> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like
>>> this
>>> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others
>>> content
>>> elements, etc.?
>>>
>>> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper
>>> around
>>> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
>>> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but,
>>> it,
>>> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>>
>>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from
>>>> a
>>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>>> for this website:
>>>>
>>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>>
>>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>>> on the site.
>>>>
>>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>>> blind here.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tania
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>> >> >> >>
>
>
> > > >

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Mon, Jul 22 2013 11:26AM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
← Previous message | Next message →

Thanks, I'm glad it's helpful.
I haven't had a chance to see the website, so I'm not sure which component
types are applicable. It really depends on what the developers have need of.
Guidance for correct focus handling can be found on the WCAG documentation.

The AccDC TSG provides twenty top level categories of accessible interaction
designs, which have been fully tested using JAWS, NVDA, Voiceover, and
keyboard only interaction to cover the widest range of disability types with
AT usage requirements.

Thousands of hours have been dedicated to performing accessibility testing
for these components and implementation types, and all related ARIA pitfalls
and AT compatibility issues that were encountered during this process have
also been included within the documentation for each component.

The AccDC TSG is specifically designed for developers and engineering
students wishing to learn how Assistive Technologies interact with
accessibly coded, standards compliant implementations, to make it easier for
developers to recognize when accessibility issues are present within new
implementations.

Additionally, the implementations can be used as is, if desired, using any
visual styling, language, or content without negatively impacting
accessibility.

Since these components strictly follow the ARIA specification, they can also
be used to test AT support for various implementation types within a
controlled environment, which is what the Coding Arena is for.

I recommend that developers familiarize themselves with Assistive
Technologies and how they work, so that it becomes easier to recognize the
challenges faced by those using them.

Support for this project is going to be endorsed by the Royal Society of
Arts, which I was just notified of on Friday.

Best wishes,
Bryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> hi Bryan,
> i went to your webpage:
>
> http://whatsock.com/tsg/
>
>
> great work! for developers who do not know anything about coding for
> accessibility, you had provided useful tips for them.
>
> now there's one more app at the site that is giving problem. after
> looking through your whatsup site, i am not sure which recommendations
> apply to the app.
> if you go to
>
> www.airasia.com/asia
>
>
> you are placed in 'return ticket' radio button box
> arow 2 times down reaches the problematic app for choosing destination.
> i don't know why sometimes it works and sometimes not. but finding the
> right destination is difficult.
>
> so which of the recommendations in your what's up page will deal with
> the problem or it is not covered there?
>
> thanks
>
> best regards,
> tania
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/22/2013 5:43 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
>> The date picker at
>> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>> doesn't retain Applications Mode in JAWS14 using IE and FF, so you can't
>> use
>> the arrow keys to navigate the calendar in a grid, nor use
>> PageUp/PageDown
>> to switch months, etc, without manually doing this after the calendar is
>> opened.
>>
>> However, the date picker at
>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(with%20Disabled%20Date%20Ranges)/demo.htm
>> does this automatically, and is part of the package at
>> https://github.com/accdc/tsg
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul J. Adam" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>
>>
>>> It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They
>>> also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type
>>> a
>>> date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not
>>> accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.
>>>
>>> This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few
>>> accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date
>>> picker please let us know.
>>>
>>> Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
>>> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Paul J. Adam
>>> Accessibility Evangelist
>>> www.deque.com
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>>
>>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from
>>>> a
>>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>>> for this website:
>>>>
>>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>>
>>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>>> on the site.
>>>>
>>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>>> blind here.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tania
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>
>
> > >

From: Tania
Date: Mon, Jul 22 2013 9:02PM
Subject: Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
← Previous message | No next message

i am most grateful to all experts who responded to my query. i will meet
with the developers to evaluate the best options.

thanks again

best regards
tania

On 7/23/2013 1:26 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> Thanks, I'm glad it's helpful.
> I haven't had a chance to see the website, so I'm not sure which component
> types are applicable. It really depends on what the developers have need of.
> Guidance for correct focus handling can be found on the WCAG documentation.
>
> The AccDC TSG provides twenty top level categories of accessible interaction
> designs, which have been fully tested using JAWS, NVDA, Voiceover, and
> keyboard only interaction to cover the widest range of disability types with
> AT usage requirements.
>
> Thousands of hours have been dedicated to performing accessibility testing
> for these components and implementation types, and all related ARIA pitfalls
> and AT compatibility issues that were encountered during this process have
> also been included within the documentation for each component.
>
> The AccDC TSG is specifically designed for developers and engineering
> students wishing to learn how Assistive Technologies interact with
> accessibly coded, standards compliant implementations, to make it easier for
> developers to recognize when accessibility issues are present within new
> implementations.
>
> Additionally, the implementations can be used as is, if desired, using any
> visual styling, language, or content without negatively impacting
> accessibility.
>
> Since these components strictly follow the ARIA specification, they can also
> be used to test AT support for various implementation types within a
> controlled environment, which is what the Coding Arena is for.
>
> I recommend that developers familiarize themselves with Assistive
> Technologies and how they work, so that it becomes easier to recognize the
> challenges faced by those using them.
>
> Support for this project is going to be endorsed by the Royal Society of
> Arts, which I was just notified of on Friday.
>
> Best wishes,
> Bryan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tania" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
>> hi Bryan,
>> i went to your webpage:
>>
>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/
>>
>>
>> great work! for developers who do not know anything about coding for
>> accessibility, you had provided useful tips for them.
>>
>> now there's one more app at the site that is giving problem. after
>> looking through your whatsup site, i am not sure which recommendations
>> apply to the app.
>> if you go to
>>
>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>
>>
>> you are placed in 'return ticket' radio button box
>> arow 2 times down reaches the problematic app for choosing destination.
>> i don't know why sometimes it works and sometimes not. but finding the
>> right destination is difficult.
>>
>> so which of the recommendations in your what's up page will deal with
>> the problem or it is not covered there?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> best regards,
>> tania
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2013 5:43 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
>>> The date picker at
>>> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>>> doesn't retain Applications Mode in JAWS14 using IE and FF, so you can't
>>> use
>>> the arrow keys to navigate the calendar in a grid, nor use
>>> PageUp/PageDown
>>> to switch months, etc, without manually doing this after the calendar is
>>> opened.
>>>
>>> However, the date picker at
>>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(with%20Disabled%20Date%20Ranges)/demo.htm
>>> does this automatically, and is part of the package at
>>> https://github.com/accdc/tsg
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul J. Adam" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>>
>>>
>>>> It looks like their depart and arrive date inputs are not labelled. They
>>>> also require a DD/MM/YYYY input format. It appears you can manually type
>>>> a
>>>> date if in the correct format but the calendar date picker is not
>>>> accessible with the keyboard or a screen reader.
>>>>
>>>> This is a date picker that I recommend for accessibility, one of the few
>>>> accessible date pickers I've found. If anyone else knows of a good date
>>>> picker please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Date picker - Web Experience Toolkit (WET)
>>>> http://wet-boew.github.io/wet-boew/demos/datepicker/datepicker-eng.html
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Paul J. Adam
>>>> Accessibility Evangelist
>>>> www.deque.com
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Tania < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>>>
>>>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from
>>>>> a
>>>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>>>> for this website:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>>>
>>>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>>>> on the site.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>>>> blind here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tania
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> > > > >