E-mail List Archives

You are here: Home > Community > E-mail List Archives > View Thread

Thread: jaws support of aria

Number of posts in this thread: 7 (In chronological order)

From: Jennison Asuncion
Date: Thu, Aug 08 2013 3:26PM
Subject: jaws support of aria
No previous message | Next message →

Hi,

I came across this document (downloadable Word file) on the Freedom Scientific website called JAWS Support for ARIA
that I thought some here might find of interest http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/DevDoc/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc.

Jennison
Jennison Mark Asuncion
Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org
LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison
Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison
Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA

From: Jennison Asuncion
Date: Thu, Aug 08 2013 3:27PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | Next message →

From: Daniel Tang (dtang)
Date: Thu, Aug 08 2013 4:16PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | Next message →

Thank you.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jennison Asuncion
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:27 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] jaws support of aria

Hi,

I came across this document (downloadable Word file) on the Freedom Scientific website called JAWS Support for ARIA that I thought some here might find of interest http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/DevDoc/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc.

Jennison
Jennison Mark Asuncion
Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison
Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA

From: Jukka K. Korpela
Date: Thu, Aug 08 2013 11:51PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | Next message →

2013-08-09 0:27, Jennison Asuncion wrote:

> I came across this document (downloadable Word file) on the Freedom
> Scientific website called JAWS Support for ARIA that I thought some
> here might find of interest
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/DevDoc/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc.

Thank you for sharing the information. I found it somewhat paradoxical
that the information is in Microsoft Word format, but there seems to be
an HTML version too (though with all text in italic for some reason):
http://blog.paciellogroup.com/2010/10/jaws-support-for-aria/
(The URL is misleading; the document was posted October 7, 2010, but has
been updated October 2012.)

Yucca

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Fri, Aug 09 2013 12:46PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | Next message →

Thanks. There appear to be some discrepancies in the doc for devs to be
aware of.

The role Dialog states
"This role will be announced only when a child of the dialog gets focus, and
will not appear in the virtual buffer."

This is incorrect. The content does appear in the virtual buffer when
arrowing, but does correctly restrict focus to Applications Mode when focus
is set within the container. However, this only works in JAWS 12 and 13 in
IE, but no longer does so in JAWS 14. Now, in JAWS 14, only the region is
announced and does nothing else. You can get the same effect by adding
role=region and aria-label="dialog" to the container for the same feedback
in JAWS.

The role Presentation states
"This role indicates that a feature of a Web page exists for visual
formatting only. Therefore, JAWS ignores objects with this role. (Known to
work in Firefox.)"

This is incorrect. JAWS removes the role of an element that has
role=presentation, but does not ignore it's textual content. So if you put
role=presentation on an H2 element for example, JAWS would ignore the
heading aspect, so you could not use 'h' to jump to that element, but the
textual content within the heading would still be announced when arrowing.
Only aria-hidden removes an element entirely from the accessibility tree.

The role Tree states
"When in the virtual buffer, JAWS may show only one item of a tree control.
This allows the user to navigate past the tree quickly."

There is currently a very large bug in JAWS 13 and 14 where this
functionality is broken. You can see an example of this at
http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Trees/Tree%20(External%20XML)/demo.htm
If you press Insert+F5 for a list of form fields using JAWS12, you will see
only 1 form field. If you do the same in JAWS13(64bt) and JAWS14, you will
see 5. Also arrowing will make you traverse through all items. Hopefully
this will be fixed soon though.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennison Asuncion" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:27 PM
Subject: [WebAIM] jaws support of aria

> Hi,
>
> I came across this document (downloadable Word file) on the Freedom
> Scientific website called JAWS Support for ARIA
> that I thought some here might find of interest
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/DevDoc/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc.
>
>
> Jennison
> Jennison Mark Asuncion
> Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org
> LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison
> Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison
> Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA
> > >

From: Jennison Asuncion
Date: Fri, Aug 09 2013 3:28PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | Next message →

Brian,

If you were looking at the Word file, please definitely contact Freedom Scientific who wrote the document, so they can test to validate your observations. That will be helpful to many.

Jennison

Jennison Mark Asuncion
Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org
LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison
Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison
Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Fri, Aug 09 2013 3:49PM
Subject: Re: jaws support of aria
← Previous message | No next message

No problem, I'll build out some sample files and file a bug on Monday.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennison Asuncion" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] jaws support of aria

> Brian,
>
> If you were looking at the Word file, please definitely contact Freedom
> Scientific who wrote the document, so they can test to validate your
> observations. That will be helpful to many.
>
> Jennison
>
>
> Jennison Mark Asuncion
> Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org
> LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison
> Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison
> Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA
> > >