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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Fri, Dec 13 2013 11:46AM
Subject: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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Hello:
I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used these
and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick
examples I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: Fri, Dec 13 2013 12:44PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the issue in the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what I can tell. see the following discussion threads:

* https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disability_access_its_the_law
* https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant

not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?

Gary M. Morin

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible

Hello:
I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used these and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick examples I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Sat, Dec 14 2013 4:12PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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I concur with Gary. At work, I see what types of software people would like
to use. I denied the use of Prezi because they were non-compliant.

>some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
In my neck of the woods, this would be a stretch. First they would need to
gain a Sole-Source Justification, and prove the software has something that
meets a business need something else cannot. The only thing that pops into
mind is being able to show on the web and mobile devices. I would argue
that you could do it with straight HTML, while it would take longer, it
could be made compliant in an easier fashion. But if some group really
wanted to pay for it, I'd let them, but require the presentation to be
reviewed by myself or somebody from my team prior to posting.

Lucy- I haven't heard about the other two products to comment. However org
charts are messy to do. I'd most likely tell them to post it as an image
and give it an appropriate alt.

--
Ryan E. Benson

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the issue in
> the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what I can
> tell. see the following discussion threads:
>
> *
> https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disability_access_its_the_law
> *
> https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant
>
> not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe some
> organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
>
> Gary M. Morin
>
> ?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
>
> Hello:
> I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
> Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used these
> and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick examples
> I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> > > >

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Sat, Dec 14 2013 11:16PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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Exhalent answers thanks

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Ryan E. Benson
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:12 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
accessible

I concur with Gary. At work, I see what types of software people would
like
to use. I denied the use of Prezi because they were non-compliant.

>some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
In my neck of the woods, this would be a stretch. First they would need to
gain a Sole-Source Justification, and prove the software has something
that
meets a business need something else cannot. The only thing that pops into
mind is being able to show on the web and mobile devices. I would argue
that you could do it with straight HTML, while it would take longer, it
could be made compliant in an easier fashion. But if some group really
wanted to pay for it, I'd let them, but require the presentation to be
reviewed by myself or somebody from my team prior to posting.

Lucy- I haven't heard about the other two products to comment. However org
charts are messy to do. I'd most likely tell them to post it as an image
and give it an appropriate alt.

--
Ryan E. Benson

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the issue
in
> the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what I
can
> tell. see the following discussion threads:
>
> *
>
https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disability
_access_its_the_law
> *
> https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant
>
> not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe some
> organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
>
> Gary M. Morin
>
> ?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
>
> Hello:
> I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
> Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used
these
> and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick
examples
> I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> > > >

From: Jim Allan
Date: Tue, Dec 17 2013 3:20PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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Lucy,
if support weren't so bad there is the aria-flowto property - only works
will with Firefox and Jaws
http://wps.pearsoned.com/WAI_ARIA_Testing/235/60309/15439152.cw/index.html
jim

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Exhalent answers thanks
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Ryan E. Benson
> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:12 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> accessible
>
> I concur with Gary. At work, I see what types of software people would
> like
> to use. I denied the use of Prezi because they were non-compliant.
>
> >some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
> In my neck of the woods, this would be a stretch. First they would need to
> gain a Sole-Source Justification, and prove the software has something
> that
> meets a business need something else cannot. The only thing that pops into
> mind is being able to show on the web and mobile devices. I would argue
> that you could do it with straight HTML, while it would take longer, it
> could be made compliant in an easier fashion. But if some group really
> wanted to pay for it, I'd let them, but require the presentation to be
> reviewed by myself or somebody from my team prior to posting.
>
>
> Lucy- I haven't heard about the other two products to comment. However org
> charts are messy to do. I'd most likely tell them to post it as an image
> and give it an appropriate alt.
>
> --
> Ryan E. Benson
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the issue
> in
> > the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what I
> can
> > tell. see the following discussion threads:
> >
> > *
> >
> https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disability
> _access_its_the_law
> > *
> > https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant
> >
> > not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe some
> > organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e., funds)?
> >
> > Gary M. Morin
> >
> > ?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
> >
> > Hello:
> > I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
> > Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used
> these
> > and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick
> examples
> > I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy
> >
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Access Analyst
> > IST-Campus Technology Services
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >

--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Tue, Dec 17 2013 3:23PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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Hello:
In what way is support so bad is there just no documentation or what do
you mean

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jim Allan
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:20 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
accessible

Lucy,
if support weren't so bad there is the aria-flowto property - only works
will with Firefox and Jaws
http://wps.pearsoned.com/WAI_ARIA_Testing/235/60309/15439152.cw/index.html
jim

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Exhalent answers thanks
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Ryan E.
> Benson
> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:12 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> accessible
>
> I concur with Gary. At work, I see what types of software people would
> like to use. I denied the use of Prezi because they were
> non-compliant.
>
> >some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e.,
funds)?
> In my neck of the woods, this would be a stretch. First they would
> need to gain a Sole-Source Justification, and prove the software has
> something that meets a business need something else cannot. The only
> thing that pops into mind is being able to show on the web and mobile
> devices. I would argue that you could do it with straight HTML, while
> it would take longer, it could be made compliant in an easier fashion.
> But if some group really wanted to pay for it, I'd let them, but
> require the presentation to be reviewed by myself or somebody from my
> team prior to posting.
>
>
> Lucy- I haven't heard about the other two products to comment. However
> org charts are messy to do. I'd most likely tell them to post it as an
> image and give it an appropriate alt.
>
> --
> Ryan E. Benson
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the
> > issue
> in
> > the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what
> > I
> can
> > tell. see the following discussion threads:
> >
> > *
> >
> https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disabi
> lity
> _access_its_the_law
> > *
> > https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant
> >
> > not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe
> > some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e.,
funds)?
> >
> > Gary M. Morin
> >
> > ?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notificati
> > on
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> > accessible
> >
> > Hello:
> > I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
> > Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used
> these
> > and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick
> examples
> > I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy
> >
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Access Analyst
> > IST-Campus Technology Services
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> >
> >
> > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>

--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster Texas School for the
Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Jim Allan
Date: Tue, Dec 17 2013 3:57PM
Subject: Re: SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they accessible
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support bad meaning it only works with Firefox and Jaws. Not other screen
reader or other browsers...at least according to Pearson's testing.
Jim

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello:
> In what way is support so bad is there just no documentation or what do
> you mean
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jim Allan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:20 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> accessible
>
> Lucy,
> if support weren't so bad there is the aria-flowto property - only works
> will with Firefox and Jaws
> http://wps.pearsoned.com/WAI_ARIA_Testing/235/60309/15439152.cw/index.html
> jim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Exhalent answers thanks
> >
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Access Analyst
> > IST-Campus Technology Services
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Ryan E.
> > Benson
> > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:12 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> > accessible
> >
> > I concur with Gary. At work, I see what types of software people would
> > like to use. I denied the use of Prezi because they were
> > non-compliant.
> >
> > >some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e.,
> funds)?
> > In my neck of the woods, this would be a stretch. First they would
> > need to gain a Sole-Source Justification, and prove the software has
> > something that meets a business need something else cannot. The only
> > thing that pops into mind is being able to show on the web and mobile
> > devices. I would argue that you could do it with straight HTML, while
> > it would take longer, it could be made compliant in an easier fashion.
> > But if some group really wanted to pay for it, I'd let them, but
> > require the presentation to be reviewed by myself or somebody from my
> > team prior to posting.
> >
> >
> > Lucy- I haven't heard about the other two products to comment. However
> > org charts are messy to do. I'd most likely tell them to post it as an
> > image and give it an appropriate alt.
> >
> > --
> > Ryan E. Benson
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > Prezi is not - they have addressed or, at least, acknowledged the
> > > issue
> > in
> > > the past, in discussions but not in terms of remediation, from what
> > > I
> > can
> > > tell. see the following discussion threads:
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> > https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/prezi_needs_to_address_disabi
> > lity
> > _access_its_the_law
> > > *
> > > https://getsatisfaction.com/prezi/topics/is_prezi_ada_508_compliant
> > >
> > > not sure what it would take for Prezi to be more responsive - maybe
> > > some organization or agency to tempt them with a contract (i.e.,
> funds)?
> > >
> > > Gary M. Morin
> > >
> > > ?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notificati
> > > on
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:47 PM
> > > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > > Subject: [WebAIM] SpicyNodes, Prezi, and Piktochart are they
> > > accessible
> > >
> > > Hello:
> > > I have been asked to work with a site that wants to use SpicyNodes,
> > > Prezi, and Piktochart to show org charts and such. Has anyone used
> > these
> > > and or seen successful uses of them that are accessible? the quick
> > examples
> > > I saw were not so I am hoping we can find an answer. Thanks Lucy
> > >
> > > Lucia Greco
> > > Web Access Analyst
> > > IST-Campus Technology Services
> > > University of California, Berkeley
> > > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster Texas School for the
> Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > >

--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964