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From: Krack, Joseph@DOR
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2014 9:48AM
Subject: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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Dear Group, I am having great difficulty making the hyperlinks in my PDF
forms recognized by AT. The forms start in Word and then I make it into
a PDF. In PDF the hyperlinks work via mouse, but are not recognized by
JAWS nor NVDA. I have searched for ways to make them work, but all of
the techniques I have found online don't seem to work. I am using Adobe
Acrobat Professional XI.

Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks
recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the
right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Thank you!

Joe Krack
CA. Dept. of Rehab.

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2014 9:53AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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> Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Locate and select the tag in the tags tree where you want the first link to appear.
Choose Find from the Tags panel > options menu or right click
A Find dialog will appear.
Choose unmarked links from the Find drop down
Choose the Find button
If the desired link is shown, Choose Tag Element
A link OBJR element It will be added to the tag you had selected.
Repeat for each link.

Jonathan


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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 11:49 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

Dear Group, I am having great difficulty making the hyperlinks in my PDF forms recognized by AT. The forms start in Word and then I make it into a PDF. In PDF the hyperlinks work via mouse, but are not recognized by JAWS nor NVDA. I have searched for ways to make them work, but all of the techniques I have found online don't seem to work. I am using Adobe Acrobat Professional XI.

Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Thank you!

Joe Krack
CA. Dept. of Rehab.

From: Krack, Joseph@DOR
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2014 11:10AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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Thanks Jonathan, I tried what you suggested but even though there were
two links within the Tag none were recognized using this. Is there
another step if they are not shown?

Joe

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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:54 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

> Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks
recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the
right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Locate and select the tag in the tags tree where you want the first link
to appear.
Choose Find from the Tags panel > options menu or right click A Find
dialog will appear.
Choose unmarked links from the Find drop down Choose the Find button If
the desired link is shown, Choose Tag Element A link OBJR element It
will be added to the tag you had selected.
Repeat for each link.

Jonathan


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Joseph@DOR
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 11:49 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

Dear Group, I am having great difficulty making the hyperlinks in my PDF
forms recognized by AT. The forms start in Word and then I make it into
a PDF. In PDF the hyperlinks work via mouse, but are not recognized by
JAWS nor NVDA. I have searched for ways to make them work, but all of
the techniques I have found online don't seem to work. I am using Adobe
Acrobat Professional XI.

Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks
recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the
right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Thank you!

Joe Krack
CA. Dept. of Rehab.
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From: Duff Johnson
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2014 12:50PM
Subject: Re: Re Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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> This is a common source of confusion, because many viewers (including Adobe Reader and Acrobat) will impute a link based on a URL. This does not, however, result in a *tagged* link, which is required for AT.

As such, it’s useful to know if you actually have links in the PDF (which can be tagged), or not.

To do this in Acrobat…

1. Go into “Add or Edit a link” mode (see attached screen-shot)

2. If you see a box around the link then the PDF actually contains a link annotation, which may then be tagged. If you do not see a box then the PDF does not contain a link annotation at that location, and the link behavior you are seeing “under the mouse” is simply the viewer imputing a link.

Link annotations must be added before they can be tagged into the logical structure of the file.

Duff.

From: Sherry Crysup
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2014 1:57PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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I had the same trouble. I followed Jonathan's suggestion. I found after you found the link and tag the link you need to go into the tag and set the title, actual text, alt txt, and the most important Language in property tag. I found without setting the language, JAWS would not recognized the link. I also, found that if I went to Content (located on the left hand side do not confuse with content editing), look under Annotations for link, and right click on "show in tag panel" it would take me to the correct tag to edit. Then right click on properties and updated the information. I also, looked under the tag area for extra links that did not have an OBJR under a link tag and deleted these links because they came up when using Insert + F8 to see links and the links do not work. Finally yet importantly to make all this work you have save and then get out of the document and come back into.
Thank you Jonathan for without your suggestion I would not have found the solution to my problem. There may be an easier way but this worked for me.

Sherry

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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

Thanks Jonathan, I tried what you suggested but even though there were two links within the Tag none were recognized using this. Is there another step if they are not shown?

Joe

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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Avila
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:54 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

> Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks
recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Locate and select the tag in the tags tree where you want the first link to appear.
Choose Find from the Tags panel > options menu or right click A Find dialog will appear.
Choose unmarked links from the Find drop down Choose the Find button If the desired link is shown, Choose Tag Element A link OBJR element It will be added to the tag you had selected.
Repeat for each link.

Jonathan


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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Krack, Joseph@DOR
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 11:49 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF

Dear Group, I am having great difficulty making the hyperlinks in my PDF forms recognized by AT. The forms start in Word and then I make it into a PDF. In PDF the hyperlinks work via mouse, but are not recognized by JAWS nor NVDA. I have searched for ways to make them work, but all of the techniques I have found online don't seem to work. I am using Adobe Acrobat Professional XI.

Can someone give me the exact steps to take to make the hyperlinks recognized in the PDF and work via the keyboard, or point me in the right direction? I would REALLY appreciate the help.

Thank you!

Joe Krack
CA. Dept. of Rehab.

From: Mallory van Achterberg
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2014 2:10AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 07:57:25PM +0000, Sherry Crysup wrote:
> I had the same trouble. I followed Jonathan's suggestion. I found after you found the link and tag the link you need to go into the tag and set the title, actual text, alt txt, and the most important Language in property tag. I found without setting the language, JAWS would not recognized the link. I also, found that if I went to Content (located on the left hand side do not confuse with content editing), look under Annotations for link, and right click on "show in tag panel" it would take me to the correct tag to edit. Then right click on properties and updated the information. I also, looked under the tag area for extra links that did not have an OBJR under a link tag and deleted these links because they came up when using Insert + F8 to see links and the links do not work. Finally yet importantly to make all this work you have save and then get out of the document and come back into.
> Thank you Jonathan for without your suggestion I would not have found the solution to my problem. There may be an easier way but this worked for me.
>
> Sherry

I dunno about the rest of you but I think this is ridiculous and an
outrage. Why should *any* author have to jump through *this many*
hoops to make a link work in a PDF?? The software is broken.

_mallory

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Sat, Nov 01 2014 7:47PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Hyperlinks in PDF
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> Finally yet importantly to make all this work you have save and then get out of the document and come back into.

This is a very important step and one that applies to any tag changes and testing with assistive technology in my experience

Jonathan

> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Sherry Crysup < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Finally yet importantly to make all this work you have save and then get out of the document and come back into.