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From: Karl Groves
Date: Tue, Dec 16 2014 12:29PM
Subject: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on accessible Meeting/
Webinar products, either ones you love or ones you hate. Here are a
few I've been looking at.


Clickmeeting: http://www.clickmeeting.com/

Zoho Meeting: https://www.zoho.com/meeting/

Webex: http://www.webex.com/

GoToMeeting http://www.gotomeeting.com/


These look pretty cool because they're based on Google Hangouts

Business Hangouts: https://business-hangouts.com

Webinars OnAir: https://www.webinarsonair.com

--

Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829

Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

www.tenon.io

From: Jonathan C. Cohn
Date: Tue, Dec 16 2014 12:40PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Hello,

My prime contractor uses WebEx quite a bit and I am able to use it quite well with JAWS. I believe I once used it with the Macintosh and VoiceOver also. Obviously the screen/powerpoint sharing is inaccessible, but unless you are going to use Microsoft Lynbc I expect that the Powerpoint sharing will never work great.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Dec 16, 2014, at 14:29, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on accessible Meeting/
> Webinar products, either ones you love or ones you hate. Here are a
> few I've been looking at.
>
>
> Clickmeeting: http://www.clickmeeting.com/
>
> Zoho Meeting: https://www.zoho.com/meeting/
>
> Webex: http://www.webex.com/
>
> GoToMeeting http://www.gotomeeting.com/
>
>
> These look pretty cool because they're based on Google Hangouts
>
> Business Hangouts: https://business-hangouts.com
>
> Webinars OnAir: https://www.webinarsonair.com
>
> --
>
> Karl Groves
> www.karlgroves.com
> @karlgroves
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>
> Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks
>
> www.tenon.io
> > >

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Tue, Dec 16 2014 1:23PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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we have been working with bluejeans here and love it they have a good base
of access and are constantly adding even more my current favorite



--
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces


On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My prime contractor uses WebEx quite a bit and I am able to use it quite
> well with JAWS. I believe I once used it with the Macintosh and VoiceOver
> also. Obviously the screen/powerpoint sharing is inaccessible, but unless
> you are going to use Microsoft Lynbc I expect that the Powerpoint sharing
> will never work great.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 14:29, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on accessible Meeting/
> > Webinar products, either ones you love or ones you hate. Here are a
> > few I've been looking at.
> >
> >
> > Clickmeeting: http://www.clickmeeting.com/
> >
> > Zoho Meeting: https://www.zoho.com/meeting/
> >
> > Webex: http://www.webex.com/
> >
> > GoToMeeting http://www.gotomeeting.com/
> >
> >
> > These look pretty cool because they're based on Google Hangouts
> >
> > Business Hangouts: https://business-hangouts.com
> >
> > Webinars OnAir: https://www.webinarsonair.com
> >
> > --
> >
> > Karl Groves
> > www.karlgroves.com
> > @karlgroves
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> > Phone: +1 410.541.6829
> >
> > Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks
> >
> > www.tenon.io
> > > > > > >
> > > >

From: Steven M. Sawczyn
Date: Tue, Dec 16 2014 2:39PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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As a blind guy, accessible meeting platforms have been something I've been
struggling with for years. Recently, I was told of a service that, so far,
is the absolute best I've come across. The service is called Lucid
Meetings: http://www.lucidmeetings.com . Why do I like it?

* Accessible agendas can be created before the meeting, modified
during the meeting and distributed after the meeting in a number of formats
including HTML, Word and a few others I believe. What stood out to me
particularly is that heading hierarchy is used to show the relationship
between items and sub items, etc…

* Meeting notes are automatically associated with the current agenda
item under discussion.

* Lots of accessibility love has been given to the rich text editor
used to create notes, agenda items, to-dos, motions etc.

* As hinted at above, interactive motions can be introduced and
voted on during meetings, also accessible.

* The integrated chat system, which allows for group chat or
one-to-one chat works extremely well and even uses ARIA to cause new
messages to automatically be read.

* Speaker queue and attendance lists are accessible, this could be
especially handy for webinars, etc…

* Presentation controls seem extremely accessible allowing me to
control the meeting, speaker queue, agenda items, on-the-fly creation of
motions and notes, etc…

* Lucid currently has a number of integrations including

o phone/VOIP bridges,

o DropBox which makes it really easy to import PowerPoint and other
presentation materials,

o Confluence for exporting meeting records to Confluence spaces,

o Probably a few I’m not thinking of off the top of my head.

* Ability to send out a poll to participants to determine the best
time to schedule the meeting, i.e. to allow participants to select available
times.

* Ability to send an accessible survey after the meeting.

* Really awesome accessibility statement (such things really do
matter to me): http://www.lucidmeetings.com/docs/accessibility-statement

* Accessible training and documentation materials.



I’ve only been using Lucid for a short time, but clearly I’m already a big
fan. I’m also very encouraged by responses I’ve received from the company
which to me, show a willingness to work with people and to get any existing
issues resolved.



If anyone has any specific questions about Lucid, I’d be happy to answer off
list.



Thanks and hope this helps,



Steve



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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Lucy Greco
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:24 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?



we have been working with bluejeans here and love it they have a good base

of access and are constantly adding even more my current favorite







--

Lucia Greco

Web Accessibility Evangelist

IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration

University of California, Berkeley

(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco

<http://webaccess.berkeley.edu>; http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

Follow me on twitter @accessaces





On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn <
<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> My prime contractor uses WebEx quite a bit and I am able to use it quite

> well with JAWS. I believe I once used it with the Macintosh and VoiceOver

> also. Obviously the screen/powerpoint sharing is inaccessible, but unless

> you are going to use Microsoft Lynbc I expect that the Powerpoint sharing

> will never work great.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jonathan

>

>

>

> On Dec 16, 2014, at 14:29, Karl Groves < <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

>

> > Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on accessible Meeting/

> > Webinar products, either ones you love or ones you hate. Here are a

> > few I've been looking at.

> >

> >

> > Clickmeeting: <http://www.clickmeeting.com/>;
http://www.clickmeeting.com/

> >

> > Zoho Meeting: <https://www.zoho.com/meeting/>
https://www.zoho.com/meeting/

> >

> > Webex: <http://www.webex.com/>; http://www.webex.com/

> >

> > GoToMeeting <http://www.gotomeeting.com/>; http://www.gotomeeting.com/

> >

> >

> > These look pretty cool because they're based on Google Hangouts

> >

> > Business Hangouts: <https://business-hangouts.com>
https://business-hangouts.com

> >

> > Webinars OnAir: <https://www.webinarsonair.com>
https://www.webinarsonair.com

> >

> > --

> >

> > Karl Groves

> > <http://www.karlgroves.com>; www.karlgroves.com

> > @karlgroves

> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves>;
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves

> > Phone: +1 410.541.6829

> >

> > Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility

> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

> >

> > <http://www.tenon.io>; www.tenon.io

> >
> > http://list.webaim.org/

> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

>

>
> http://list.webaim.org/

> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

>


http://list.webaim.org/

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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Tue, Dec 16 2014 2:45PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors.
Maybe that'll change, eventually.

I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.

If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
providing feedback, kudos to you, too.

I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]

Best,
Jennifer

From: Jim Allan
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2014 9:42AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been using
Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
>
> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
> that'll change, eventually.
>
> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
>
> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>
> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
>
> Best,
> Jennifer
>
>
> > > >


--
[image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964

From: Karl Groves
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2014 10:02AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
fits a more hybrid model

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been using
> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
>> that'll change, eventually.
>>
>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
>>
>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>>
>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
>>
>> Best,
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>> >> >> >>
>
>
> --
> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > --

Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829

Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

www.tenon.io

From: Whitney Quesenbery
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2014 10:29AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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I've run usability sessions with participants using screen readers using
GoToMeeting, and they have been able to use the control panel.

In presentations, it's been especially helpful to post URLs of pages we're
discussing so that people can bring up pages on their own systems.

It does not have the "robust" environment that Connect does, but is also a
lot simpler. I've found that using Twitter #hashtags is a good way to have
a concurrent conversation stream in GTM.

One big value to GoToMeeting is how easy it is to choose the full online
experience (using either embedded or VOIP audio) or to simply dial in to
the audio. I now use it routinely as my conference service for this reason
(and because once you've paid for the subscription, using it more drops the
cost-per-use.)

I've seen bluejeans, but it does not seem to be available outside of
education.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
> conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
> really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
> fits a more hybrid model
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been using
> > Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
> >> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
> >> that'll change, eventually.
> >>
> >> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
> >>
> >> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
> >> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
> >>
> >> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jennifer
> >>
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
> > Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> > Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> > 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> > voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> > "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > > > > >
>
>
> --
>
> Karl Groves
> www.karlgroves.com
> @karlgroves
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>
> Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks
>
> www.tenon.io
> > > >

From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2014 12:10PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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What about "Accessible Event" by SeroTek?

http://www.serotek.com/accessibleevent


It has been some time since I used it but when I did, it seemed to work well using a screen reader--and the presentation materials in the browser window seemed accessible. I gather it can integrate with other online conferencing products, but I don't know much more about it other than from the few times I did use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karl Groves
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:03 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?

LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
fits a more hybrid model

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been using
> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
>> that'll change, eventually.
>>
>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
>>
>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>>
>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
>>
>> Best,
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>> >> >> >>
>
>
> --
> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > --

Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829

Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

www.tenon.io

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2014 1:19PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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A couple of years ago I tested Accessible Events, but found it didn¹t work
for Macs. I¹m curious if that has changed.

WSSB uses Microsoft Lync which is now included in Office 365 and free to
Education. A few years ago, the Lync accessibility team came down to our
campus for a week to make notes, ask questions, and to videotape. You can
use a refreshable braille display with Lync. We use it to teach our
distance learning math classes and it works fine. We even had a student
download the Lync iPhone app and use it while in Hawaii on vacation. We
are also beginning to use Lync for web meetings with professionals. The
person who started the meeting can also record sessions and manage the
videos themselves. The scheduler integrates with Outlook if that is a
benefit.

One problem Lync has is that there is no live captioning component as with
Adobe Connect. One way to resolve this is to use a third party captioning
company, who sets up a web page for the streaming captions. The third
party captions typically need lots of cleanup, so for archived videos I
don¹t prefer to keep the captions that are embedded in Adobe Connect
anyway. With any third party captioner you will get the transcript which
can be edited along with the video and create separate caption files from
that text.

Another difficulty with Lync for some presenters can be the complexity of
the settings and preferences, though these are mercifully hidden from view.

My apologies for the length. I hope this helps.

Mike

‹

Mike Bicknell
Digital Learning, Research, and Development Coordinator
Chief Information Officer
Washington State School for the Blind
360-696-6321, ext. 133
http://www.wssb.wa.gov





On 12/17/14, 11:10 AM, "Tim Harshbarger"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

>What about "Accessible Event" by SeroTek?
>
>http://www.serotek.com/accessibleevent
>
>
>It has been some time since I used it but when I did, it seemed to work
>well using a screen reader--and the presentation materials in the browser
>window seemed accessible. I gather it can integrate with other online
>conferencing products, but I don't know much more about it other than
>from the few times I did use it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karl Groves
>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:03 AM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
>
>LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
>conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
>really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
>fits a more hybrid model
>
>On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been
>>using
>> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
>>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
>>> that'll change, eventually.
>>>
>>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
>>>
>>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
>>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>>>
>>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jennifer
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
>> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
>> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
>> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
>> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
>> >> >> >
>
>
>--
>
>Karl Groves
>www.karlgroves.com
>@karlgroves
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
>Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>
>Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks
>
>www.tenon.io
>>>>>>

From: Cliff Tyllick
Date: Sat, Jan 10 2015 2:59AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Huge help, Mike!

Thanks,

Cliff Tyllick

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> A couple of years ago I tested Accessible Events, but found it didn¹t work
> for Macs. I¹m curious if that has changed.
>
> WSSB uses Microsoft Lync which is now included in Office 365 and free to
> Education. A few years ago, the Lync accessibility team came down to our
> campus for a week to make notes, ask questions, and to videotape. You can
> use a refreshable braille display with Lync. We use it to teach our
> distance learning math classes and it works fine. We even had a student
> download the Lync iPhone app and use it while in Hawaii on vacation. We
> are also beginning to use Lync for web meetings with professionals. The
> person who started the meeting can also record sessions and manage the
> videos themselves. The scheduler integrates with Outlook if that is a
> benefit.
>
> One problem Lync has is that there is no live captioning component as with
> Adobe Connect. One way to resolve this is to use a third party captioning
> company, who sets up a web page for the streaming captions. The third
> party captions typically need lots of cleanup, so for archived videos I
> don¹t prefer to keep the captions that are embedded in Adobe Connect
> anyway. With any third party captioner you will get the transcript which
> can be edited along with the video and create separate caption files from
> that text.
>
> Another difficulty with Lync for some presenters can be the complexity of
> the settings and preferences, though these are mercifully hidden from view.
>
> My apologies for the length. I hope this helps.
>
> Mike
>
> ‹
>
> Mike Bicknell
> Digital Learning, Research, and Development Coordinator
> Chief Information Officer
> Washington State School for the Blind
> 360-696-6321, ext. 133
> http://www.wssb.wa.gov
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/17/14, 11:10 AM, "Tim Harshbarger"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> >What about "Accessible Event" by SeroTek?
> >
> >http://www.serotek.com/accessibleevent
> >
> >
> >It has been some time since I used it but when I did, it seemed to work
> >well using a screen reader--and the presentation materials in the browser
> >window seemed accessible. I gather it can integrate with other online
> >conferencing products, but I don't know much more about it other than
> >from the few times I did use it.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>
> >[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> Of Karl Groves
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:03 AM
> >To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
> >
> >LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
> >conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
> >really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
> >fits a more hybrid model
> >
> >On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been
> >>using
> >> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
> >>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
> >>> that'll change, eventually.
> >>>
> >>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
> >>>
> >>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
> >>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
> >>>
> >>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jennifer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
> >> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> >> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> >> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> >> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> >> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Karl Groves
> >www.karlgroves.com
> >@karlgroves
> >http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> >Phone: +1 410.541.6829
> >
> >Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
> >Modern Web Toolsets & The Next Generation of Accessibility Testing Tools
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks>
> >
> >www.tenon.io
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > >

From: Jonathan C Cohn
Date: Sat, Jan 10 2015 3:38PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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Good Evening,

Was this the 2013 version? There has been some discussion on JAWS related lists that seemed to indicate that screen sharing conflicted with JAWS. I expect that this might just be that JAWS does not work in remote mode like it does with Citrix and Remote Terminal, but I don't have the specifics. I have also noticed that during LYnc screen sharing sessions with 2010 Lync and JAWS 14, that the RouteJawsToPC functions are off a slight bit.


> On Jan 10, 2015, at 04:59, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Huge help, Mike!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff Tyllick
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago I tested Accessible Events, but found it didn¹t work
>> for Macs. I¹m curious if that has changed.
>>
>> WSSB uses Microsoft Lync which is now included in Office 365 and free to
>> Education. A few years ago, the Lync accessibility team came down to our
>> campus for a week to make notes, ask questions, and to videotape. You can
>> use a refreshable braille display with Lync. We use it to teach our
>> distance learning math classes and it works fine. We even had a student
>> download the Lync iPhone app and use it while in Hawaii on vacation. We
>> are also beginning to use Lync for web meetings with professionals. The
>> person who started the meeting can also record sessions and manage the
>> videos themselves. The scheduler integrates with Outlook if that is a
>> benefit.
>>
>> One problem Lync has is that there is no live captioning component as with
>> Adobe Connect. One way to resolve this is to use a third party captioning
>> company, who sets up a web page for the streaming captions. The third
>> party captions typically need lots of cleanup, so for archived videos I
>> don¹t prefer to keep the captions that are embedded in Adobe Connect
>> anyway. With any third party captioner you will get the transcript which
>> can be edited along with the video and create separate caption files from
>> that text.
>>
>> Another difficulty with Lync for some presenters can be the complexity of
>> the settings and preferences, though these are mercifully hidden from view.
>>
>> My apologies for the length. I hope this helps.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ‹
>>
>> Mike Bicknell
>> Digital Learning, Research, and Development Coordinator
>> Chief Information Officer
>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> 360-696-6321, ext. 133
>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/14, 11:10 AM, "Tim Harshbarger"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>>> What about "Accessible Event" by SeroTek?
>>>
>>> http://www.serotek.com/accessibleevent
>>>
>>>
>>> It has been some time since I used it but when I did, it seemed to work
>>> well using a screen reader--and the presentation materials in the browser
>>> window seemed accessible. I gather it can integrate with other online
>>> conferencing products, but I don't know much more about it other than
>>> from the few times I did use it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>
>>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>] On Behalf
>> Of Karl Groves
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:03 AM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
>>>
>>> LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
>>> conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
>>> really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
>>> fits a more hybrid model
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been
>>>> using
>>>> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> <javascript:;>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
>>>>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors. Maybe
>>>>> that'll change, eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW running.
>>>>>
>>>>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success by
>>>>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to date.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jennifer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
>>>> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
>>>> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>>> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
>>>> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
>>>> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Karl Groves
>>> www.karlgroves.com
>>> @karlgroves
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
>>> Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>>>
>>> Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
>>> Modern Web Toolsets & The Next Generation of Accessibility Testing Tools
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks>
>>>
>>> www.tenon.io
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>
> > >

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2015 9:00AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
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You're welcome, Cliff. It will be interesting to see what happens as Lync
and Skype merge or rather as Skype for Business comes online incorporating
Lync.

Mike Bicknell



On 1/10/15, 1:59 AM, "Cliff Tyllick" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

>Huge help, Mike!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Cliff Tyllick
>
>On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago I tested Accessible Events, but found it didn¹t
>>work
>> for Macs. I¹m curious if that has changed.
>>
>> WSSB uses Microsoft Lync which is now included in Office 365 and free to
>> Education. A few years ago, the Lync accessibility team came down to our
>> campus for a week to make notes, ask questions, and to videotape. You
>>can
>> use a refreshable braille display with Lync. We use it to teach our
>> distance learning math classes and it works fine. We even had a student
>> download the Lync iPhone app and use it while in Hawaii on vacation. We
>> are also beginning to use Lync for web meetings with professionals. The
>> person who started the meeting can also record sessions and manage the
>> videos themselves. The scheduler integrates with Outlook if that is a
>> benefit.
>>
>> One problem Lync has is that there is no live captioning component as
>>with
>> Adobe Connect. One way to resolve this is to use a third party
>>captioning
>> company, who sets up a web page for the streaming captions. The third
>> party captions typically need lots of cleanup, so for archived videos I
>> don¹t prefer to keep the captions that are embedded in Adobe Connect
>> anyway. With any third party captioner you will get the transcript which
>> can be edited along with the video and create separate caption files
>>from
>> that text.
>>
>> Another difficulty with Lync for some presenters can be the complexity
>>of
>> the settings and preferences, though these are mercifully hidden from
>>view.
>>
>> My apologies for the length. I hope this helps.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ‹
>>
>> Mike Bicknell
>> Digital Learning, Research, and Development Coordinator
>> Chief Information Officer
>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> 360-696-6321, ext. 133
>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/14, 11:10 AM, "Tim Harshbarger"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>> >What about "Accessible Event" by SeroTek?
>> >
>> >http://www.serotek.com/accessibleevent
>> >
>> >
>> >It has been some time since I used it but when I did, it seemed to work
>> >well using a screen reader--and the presentation materials in the
>>browser
>> >window seemed accessible. I gather it can integrate with other online
>> >conferencing products, but I don't know much more about it other than
>> >from the few times I did use it.
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>
>> >[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>] On Behalf
>> Of Karl Groves
>> >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:03 AM
>> >To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Webinar / Meeting products?
>> >
>> >LucidMeetings is really great. Unfortunately it isn't really
>> >conducive to the Webinar/ presentation type paradigm, but rather
>> >really excels at actual meetings, whereas something like GoToMeeting
>> >fits a more hybrid model
>> >
>> >On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >> Do Lucid or Bluejeans have a live captioning facility? We have been
>> >>using
>> >> Adobe Connect because we can add a 3rd party captioner to the steam.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> <javascript:;>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's another positive vote for Bluejeans, though it may only be
>> >>> affordable at the enterprise, i.e. higher ed./commercial sectors.
>>Maybe
>> >>> that'll change, eventually.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was even able to share my screen with sighted folks with JFW
>>running.
>> >>>
>> >>> If folks on this list have been contributing to Bluejeans' success
>>by
>> >>> providing feedback, kudos to you, too.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm very impressed! [screen reader experience, only, at least to
>>date.]
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Jennifer
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
>> >> Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
>> >> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> >> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
>> >> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
>> >> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Karl Groves
>> >www.karlgroves.com
>> >@karlgroves
>> >http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
>> >Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>> >
>> >Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
>> >Modern Web Toolsets & The Next Generation of Accessibility Testing
>>Tools
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks>
>> >
>> >www.tenon.io
>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>>>