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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Wed, Oct 12 2016 4:28AM
Subject: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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Hello,
I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our company and
I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen reader.
The best one I found was:
https://easyerp.com/
I would like a couple other options to choose from.
Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a couple
systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this point I am just
happy if it is WCAG compliant.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
From: JP Jamous
Date: Wed, Oct 12 2016 6:31AM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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That's a tough one. Accessible ERP systems are hard to find. The one that I used in the past was Power Designer DataArchitect 16.5. I was even trying to work with the company in Boston to make the UI a bit more accessible.
It is accessible for the most part but some grids require a few JAWS scripts to make them fully accessible.
That's the only one I have used and found it to be accessible for the most part. I know it is not open source, but it is worth checking it out.
I'd recommend their latest version in case they made some modifications to their UI. I am not sure what version they are using now.
I hope that helps.
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Subject: [WebAIM] ERPs that follow WCAG?
Hello,
I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our company and I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen reader.
The best one I found was:
https://easyerp.com/
I would like a couple other options to choose from.
Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a couple systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this point I am just happy if it is WCAG compliant.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Wed, Oct 12 2016 7:15AM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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Hello,
It looks like they are owned by SAP:
http://go.sap.com/product/enterprise-management/erp.html
http://powerdesigner.de/en/components/
The SAP system is so huge and complex I was not able to find where to test
their systems.
The SAP website didn't impress me either as every element is wrapped in
many clickable elements, so I had to turn that announcement off in order to
read their site.
PowerDesigner looks better, but honestly I don't think they are what we're
looking for. We are still a small business, so just the basic HR,
accounting, project management and CRM features are what we need.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> That's a tough one. Accessible ERP systems are hard to find. The one that
> I used in the past was Power Designer DataArchitect 16.5. I was even trying
> to work with the company in Boston to make the UI a bit more accessible.
>
> It is accessible for the most part but some grids require a few JAWS
> scripts to make them fully accessible.
>
> That's the only one I have used and found it to be accessible for the most
> part. I know it is not open source, but it is worth checking it out.
>
> I'd recommend their latest version in case they made some modifications to
> their UI. I am not sure what version they are using now.
> I hope that helps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
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> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] ERPs that follow WCAG?
>
> Hello,
> I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our company
> and I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen
> reader.
> The best one I found was:
> https://easyerp.com/
>
>
> I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
> accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
>
> I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a couple
> systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this point I am just
> happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >
From: _mallory
Date: Thu, Oct 13 2016 5:13AM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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My former employer used Tryton which is a fork of OpenErp. As far as
accessibility, the client/admin section is written in GtK. This means
it's not accessible on Windows and prolly also not on Mac. It should
*generally* work on Linux though.
The developers did struggle somewhat with making readonly fields
actually read out. They were using code that made them rather
unreadble back when I was still there, but they were working with a
SuperNova user who was forced to switch to Linux/Orca in order to
use the client and so far as I know they tried quite hard to get
things working for him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton
Not sure if that helps but who knows. Cheers,
_mallory
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:28:37AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our company and
> I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen reader.
> The best one I found was:
> https://easyerp.com/
>
>
> I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
> accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
>
> I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a couple
> systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this point I am just
> happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > >
From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Thu, Oct 13 2016 1:01PM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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I started using jira at my office. I have played with it enough to know how
work needs to make it accessible but I think it's possible.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:18 AM _mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> My former employer used Tryton which is a fork of OpenErp. As far as
> accessibility, the client/admin section is written in GtK. This means
> it's not accessible on Windows and prolly also not on Mac. It should
> *generally* work on Linux though.
>
> The developers did struggle somewhat with making readonly fields
> actually read out. They were using code that made them rather
> unreadble back when I was still there, but they were working with a
> SuperNova user who was forced to switch to Linux/Orca in order to
> use the client and so far as I know they tried quite hard to get
> things working for him.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton
>
> Not sure if that helps but who knows. Cheers,
> _mallory
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:28:37AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our company
> and
> > I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen
> reader.
> > The best one I found was:
> > https://easyerp.com/
> >
> >
> > I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> > Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
> > accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
> >
> > I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a couple
> > systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this point I am
> just
> > happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
From: JP Jamous
Date: Thu, Oct 13 2016 1:05PM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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Do you mean Atlassian JIRA?
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] ERPs that follow WCAG?
I started using jira at my office. I have played with it enough to know how work needs to make it accessible but I think it's possible.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:18 AM _mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> My former employer used Tryton which is a fork of OpenErp. As far as
> accessibility, the client/admin section is written in GtK. This means
> it's not accessible on Windows and prolly also not on Mac. It should
> *generally* work on Linux though.
>
> The developers did struggle somewhat with making readonly fields
> actually read out. They were using code that made them rather
> unreadble back when I was still there, but they were working with a
> SuperNova user who was forced to switch to Linux/Orca in order to use
> the client and so far as I know they tried quite hard to get things
> working for him.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton
>
> Not sure if that helps but who knows. Cheers, _mallory
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:28:37AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our
> > company
> and
> > I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen
> reader.
> > The best one I found was:
> > https://easyerp.com/
> >
> >
> > I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> > Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
> > accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any findings.
> >
> > I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a
> > couple systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this
> > point I am
> just
> > happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2016 3:23PM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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Yes.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:06 PM JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Do you mean Atlassian JIRA?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:02 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] ERPs that follow WCAG?
>
> I started using jira at my office. I have played with it enough to know
> how work needs to make it accessible but I think it's possible.
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:18 AM _mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > My former employer used Tryton which is a fork of OpenErp. As far as
> > accessibility, the client/admin section is written in GtK. This means
> > it's not accessible on Windows and prolly also not on Mac. It should
> > *generally* work on Linux though.
> >
> > The developers did struggle somewhat with making readonly fields
> > actually read out. They were using code that made them rather
> > unreadble back when I was still there, but they were working with a
> > SuperNova user who was forced to switch to Linux/Orca in order to use
> > the client and so far as I know they tried quite hard to get things
> > working for him.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton
> >
> > Not sure if that helps but who knows. Cheers, _mallory
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:28:37AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our
> > > company
> > and
> > > I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen
> > reader.
> > > The best one I found was:
> > > https://easyerp.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> > > Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has considered
> > > accessibility in their system before. I would love to hear any
> findings.
> > >
> > > I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a
> > > couple systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this
> > > point I am
> > just
> > > happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >
From: JP Jamous
Date: Sat, Oct 15 2016 11:47AM
Subject: Re: ERPs that follow WCAG?
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I have worked directly with their A11Y team. I was more focused on their Wiki or Crowd system, which had lots of issues. It integrates with JIRA big time.
The whole system is jacked up, because it was obtained from different places as modules and put together. What they are doing now is that they are planning on re-engineering Wiki from scratch with the new major version to ensure full accessibility with screen readers and Braille displays. They have had too many clients complaining about this.
I have not had that many issues with JIRA at work. Wiki is a different ball game and I work with Wiki more.
Personally, I don't recommend wasting time on new JAWS scripts since they will be re-engineering the UI from scratch to accommodate screen readers. If you use JAWS 17 along with some tricks, you can be almost as productive as your counterparts. I have been doing so for the last 8 months even they did upgrade our system, which changed the template for Wiki.
For example, rather than reading links associated with a parent page at the end of the parent page, you now have a treeview that shows the child pages as links. The treeview is toward the top of the DOM. I use Insert + F7 to pull that list up and navigate to what I want. Of course, the ideal way, would be for JAWS to recognize it as a Windows Explorer treview or dropdown menus, but it doesn't.
Yet, we are still running V5 something. So we are not up to 6 at my company.
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Yes.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:06 PM JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Do you mean Atlassian JIRA?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:02 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] ERPs that follow WCAG?
>
> I started using jira at my office. I have played with it enough to
> know how work needs to make it accessible but I think it's possible.
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:18 AM _mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > My former employer used Tryton which is a fork of OpenErp. As far as
> > accessibility, the client/admin section is written in GtK. This
> > means it's not accessible on Windows and prolly also not on Mac. It
> > should
> > *generally* work on Linux though.
> >
> > The developers did struggle somewhat with making readonly fields
> > actually read out. They were using code that made them rather
> > unreadble back when I was still there, but they were working with a
> > SuperNova user who was forced to switch to Linux/Orca in order to
> > use the client and so far as I know they tried quite hard to get
> > things working for him.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton
> >
> > Not sure if that helps but who knows. Cheers, _mallory
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:28:37AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I am looking for an Enterprise resource planning system for our
> > > company
> > and
> > > I have tested around 10 and only one has been usable with a screen
> > reader.
> > > The best one I found was:
> > > https://easyerp.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like a couple other options to choose from.
> > > Many companies use ERPs and CRMs and I'm sure someone has
> > > considered accessibility in their system before. I would love to
> > > hear any
> findings.
> > >
> > > I would prefer an open source ERP, because we currently have a
> > > couple systems I would like to integrate into any ERP, but at this
> > > point I am
> > just
> > > happy if it is WCAG compliant.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >