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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 8:40AM
Subject: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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Greetings all
(sorry for any corss posting).
I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and
I always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
I do the following:
* Open the webpage in Chrome
* Press the alt key
* Press left arrow (this puts me in the Chrome extensions menu).
From here I can put focus on the plug-in I want to run (e.g. Wave).
But here is where I get stuck.
Pressing enter or space bar on this button doesn't do anything.
I can press the context menu key (shift-f10) and get a context menu
for the add-on, such as going to its webpage, removing it from Chrome
etc.), but there is no option to run the add-on.
I suspect that I am the problem here, and I am missing something "duh
obvious", but I can't find out what.
I have tried this using NVDA and Jaws on Windows 7/8.
If anybody has the solution, can you post it?
I will do a write up for BATS and post it (I am way overdue writing one anyway).
Also I would be able to run a bunch of ac accessibility tools I've
been wanting to test, that would be a nerdy Christmas present.
Cheers
-B
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From: JP Jamous
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 9:13AM
Subject: Re: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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Birkir,
I sent instructions on this list on how to do it. It is a pain in the neck, but yes it is doable.
I don't have those instructions on this machine. Let me get to my other one and when I do I'll shoot them out.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40 AM
To: Blind accessibility testers < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
Greetings all
(sorry for any corss posting).
I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
I do the following:
* Open the webpage in Chrome
* Press the alt key
* Press left arrow (this puts me in the Chrome extensions menu).
From here I can put focus on the plug-in I want to run (e.g. Wave).
But here is where I get stuck.
Pressing enter or space bar on this button doesn't do anything.
I can press the context menu key (shift-f10) and get a context menu for the add-on, such as going to its webpage, removing it from Chrome etc.), but there is no option to run the add-on.
I suspect that I am the problem here, and I am missing something "duh obvious", but I can't find out what.
I have tried this using NVDA and Jaws on Windows 7/8.
If anybody has the solution, can you post it?
I will do a write up for BATS and post it (I am way overdue writing one anyway).
Also I would be able to run a bunch of ac accessibility tools I've been wanting to test, that would be a nerdy Christmas present.
Cheers
-B
--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
From: Solomon, Marc
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 9:38AM
Subject: Re: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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Hi Birkir,
I just tested the Wave plug-in in Chrome to see if I could duplicate the problem. After activating the Wave plug-in button, the Wave report panel was injected into the page at the top of the DOM. On my system, it took about 10 seconds for Wave plug-in to analyze the page and then inject the report panel into the page. Once the report panel was injected, I was able to read and interact with the content using an older version of NVDA and Chrome. The Wave panel appears to use semantic HTML and an ARIA tab panel widget for presenting its content.
HTH,
Marc
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:40 AM
To: Blind accessibility testers
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
Greetings all
(sorry for any corss posting).
I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
I do the following:
* Open the webpage in Chrome
* Press the alt key
* Press left arrow (this puts me in the Chrome extensions menu).
From here I can put focus on the plug-in I want to run (e.g. Wave).
But here is where I get stuck.
Pressing enter or space bar on this button doesn't do anything.
I can press the context menu key (shift-f10) and get a context menu for the add-on, such as going to its webpage, removing it from Chrome etc.), but there is no option to run the add-on.
I suspect that I am the problem here, and I am missing something "duh obvious", but I can't find out what.
I have tried this using NVDA and Jaws on Windows 7/8.
If anybody has the solution, can you post it?
I will do a write up for BATS and post it (I am way overdue writing one anyway).
Also I would be able to run a bunch of ac accessibility tools I've been wanting to test, that would be a nerdy Christmas present.
Cheers
-B
--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 9:50AM
Subject: Re: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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> I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
It depends on the plug-in. Some such as SSB's Alchemy toolbar allow you to press enter to turn on the plug-in. Others don't do anything on enter but work by adding features somewhere else such as the context menu within the page or via the developer tools. It can be very confusing to know how you are to interact with many of the plug-ins.
Jonathan
Jonathan Avila
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:14 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
Birkir,
I sent instructions on this list on how to do it. It is a pain in the neck, but yes it is doable.
I don't have those instructions on this machine. Let me get to my other one and when I do I'll shoot them out.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40 AM
To: Blind accessibility testers < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
Greetings all
(sorry for any corss posting).
I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
I do the following:
* Open the webpage in Chrome
* Press the alt key
* Press left arrow (this puts me in the Chrome extensions menu).
From here I can put focus on the plug-in I want to run (e.g. Wave).
But here is where I get stuck.
Pressing enter or space bar on this button doesn't do anything.
I can press the context menu key (shift-f10) and get a context menu for the add-on, such as going to its webpage, removing it from Chrome etc.), but there is no option to run the add-on.
I suspect that I am the problem here, and I am missing something "duh obvious", but I can't find out what.
I have tried this using NVDA and Jaws on Windows 7/8.
If anybody has the solution, can you post it?
I will do a write up for BATS and post it (I am way overdue writing one anyway).
Also I would be able to run a bunch of ac accessibility tools I've been wanting to test, that would be a nerdy Christmas present.
Cheers
-B
--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 9:57AM
Subject: Re: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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Hey Jonathan
As it happens, the Chrome Alchemy plugin was one of the ones I was
messing around with.
I did not manage to run the Chrome Alchemy plug-in using the method
described above (alt -> left arrow -> locating Alchemy plugin
->pressing enter).
At least I did this, waited for a minute, and nothing happened.
I took a cursory look at the webpage after and saw no changes (in IE,
if you run the toolbar yu see a new skip link and a page region of
results).
-B
On 12/19/16, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I
>> always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
>
> It depends on the plug-in. Some such as SSB's Alchemy toolbar allow you to
> press enter to turn on the plug-in. Others don't do anything on enter but
> work by adding features somewhere else such as the context menu within the
> page or via the developer tools. It can be very confusing to know how you
> are to interact with many of the plug-ins.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> SSB BART Group
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 703.637.8957 (Office)
> Vis Visit us online: Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
> See you at CSUN in March!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of JP Jamous
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:14 AM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen
> reader
>
> Birkir,
>
> I sent instructions on this list on how to do it. It is a pain in the neck,
> but yes it is doable.
>
> I don't have those instructions on this machine. Let me get to my other one
> and when I do I'll shoot them out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: Blind accessibility testers < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
>
> Greetings all
> (sorry for any corss posting).
>
> I have been trying to run various Chrome add-ons over the weekend and I
> always end up with my head stuck in the same old brick wall.
> I do the following:
> * Open the webpage in Chrome
> * Press the alt key
> * Press left arrow (this puts me in the Chrome extensions menu).
> From here I can put focus on the plug-in I want to run (e.g. Wave).
> But here is where I get stuck.
> Pressing enter or space bar on this button doesn't do anything.
> I can press the context menu key (shift-f10) and get a context menu for the
> add-on, such as going to its webpage, removing it from Chrome etc.), but
> there is no option to run the add-on.
> I suspect that I am the problem here, and I am missing something "duh
> obvious", but I can't find out what.
> I have tried this using NVDA and Jaws on Windows 7/8.
> If anybody has the solution, can you post it?
> I will do a write up for BATS and post it (I am way overdue writing one
> anyway).
> Also I would be able to run a bunch of ac accessibility tools I've been
> wanting to test, that would be a nerdy Christmas present.
> Cheers
> -B
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
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> >
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> > > > > >
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From: JP Jamous
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 10:03AM
Subject: Re: Running chrome add-ons from the keyboard/screen reader
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Birkir,
I just got the instructions. I gave those to Jim back in the summer. The one tip I would advise you to keep in mind is not to rush the toolbar. Give it its enough time. If you do not find your report, press Start + M to minimize all Windows and Alt + Tab to it. Keep doing that until you can get your cursor to the summary page. It is a pain, but once you get the hang of it, it would be easy.
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From: Jamous, JP
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 7:19 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: RE: [WebAIM] Web application testing
To use the WAVE toolbar with Chrome and JAWS 17, perform the following.
1. Install the toolbar
2. Ensure it is displayed on the Chrome UI by pressing the Alt key once and right-arrowing until you hear "Extension WAVE Button Menu"
To check a page:
3. Visit the page, press the Alt key and right arrow to the WAVE button.
4. Press the Space Bar once and wait for about 30 seconds.
5. Press F6 and you will be in the DOM.
6. Down-arrow from the top of the page and you will start reading the summary of the WAVE toolbar.
7. When you are done with the report, press F5 and the page refreshes showing only the page content.
If you press F6 and the report is not there, retry the steps above and give it a bit of more time. It might take the checker some time depending on the complexity of the markup and your computer resources.
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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 3:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
Hi ,
I am still looking for the answer to my question "which browser screen reader combination after initial testing with automated tools". And more important why.
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Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 8:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
I will send out the instructions on how to use it. I'll do that over the weekend as I am at work now.
If I do forget, make sure to remind me please.
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
Hi Jamous,
This is encouraging, because most of the developers I know and the developer books I read use Chrome. It would be nice to use a single environment as I continue learning development.
Jim
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
It does fine with JAWS and Chrome Jim. You just have to follow the execution sequence in order. I have used it internally for demonstrations.
At first, I thought it was inaccessible. Yet, as I gave it its fair share, I noticed it is accessible.
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
Hi,
I'm asking because I'm a screen reader user. It appears that the Wave toolbar would be problematic for me to use because chrome interacts badly with both screen readers I use.
Jim
=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
We use the WAVE toolbar.
I know it only works with Google Chrome for now, but I have not had an issue using it with JAWS.
Since all of our devs use Macs, They install Chrome and add the toolbar to it. That is only for internal pages.
External pages, we use the WebAIM site, which is a wonderful way to automate.
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Web application testing
Hi,
What automation tools do you use?
Jim
=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
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