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From: Poornima
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 10:23AM
Subject: How to label the carousel region?
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Hi All,

This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.

I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation suggestions are appreciated.

Poornima,
Accessibility Tester

From: JP Jamous
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 10:41AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Poornima,

Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the point.

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

Hi All,

This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.

I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation suggestions are appreciated.

Poornima,
Accessibility Tester

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Dec 19 2016 10:59AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
carousel if you have many.
Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard
accessible).
If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
discovery).



On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Poornima,
>
> Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen reader
> message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the region whatever
> you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the point.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> Hi All,
>
> This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user about
> Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a region name
> or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.
>
> I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and label for
> Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
> Poornima,
> Accessibility Tester
>
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Rakesh P
Date: Tue, Dec 20 2016 12:09AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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In general all the blocks of the page should be wrapped in some region of
the page using the landmark roles. If a specific region is presented more
than once, it is important to label the region. In this case as Birkir
pointed provide a region role and label the same using ARIA-label or
aria-labelledby. You can refer the heading of the section if you use
aria-labelledby. It may be also useful to screen reader user if you can
mention Carousal as part of your label. Birkir and others can correct me if
my understanding is wrong.


BTW not marking the section using region role and not providing labels is
not WCAG 2.0 violation but will enhance screen reader user experience.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
> carousel if you have many.
> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard
> accessible).
> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
> discovery).
>
>
>
> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Poornima,
> >
> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen
> reader
> > message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the region
> whatever
> > you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user
> about
> > Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a region
> name
> > or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.
> >
> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and label
> for
> > Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation suggestions are
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Poornima,
> > Accessibility Tester
> >
> > > > > archives at
> > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > >

From: Poornima
Date: Tue, Dec 20 2016 2:22PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the context of the carousel before entering into it.

Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!

Poornima,
Accessibility Tester.

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of carousel if you have many.
Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of discovery).

On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Poornima,
>
> Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen
> reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the
> region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the point.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> Hi All,
>
> This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user
> about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a
> region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.
>
> I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
> suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Poornima,
> Accessibility Tester
>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Dec 20 2016 2:58PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the context of the carousel before entering into it.

Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!

Poornima,
Accessibility Tester.

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of carousel if you have many.
Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of discovery).

On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Poornima,
>
> Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen
> reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the
> region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the point.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> Hi All,
>
> This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user
> about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a
> region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.
>
> I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
> suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Poornima,
> Accessibility Tester
>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Rakesh P
Date: Tue, Dec 20 2016 6:18PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but it
should be a learning curve.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense to
> add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This will help
> screen reader user to understand the context of the carousel before
> entering into it.
>
> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel word
> to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this the
> acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions knew across
> usability or accessibility study!
>
> Poornima,
> Accessibility Tester.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
> carousel if you have many.
> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop or
> hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this function,
> like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of discovery).
>
> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Poornima,
> >
> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen
> > reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the
> > region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the
> point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user
> > about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a
> > region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel region.
> >
> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
> > suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Poornima,
> > Accessibility Tester
> >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >

From: karthik k
Date: Tue, Dec 20 2016 9:32PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but it
> should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense to
>> add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This will
>> help
>> screen reader user to understand the context of the carousel before
>> entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel word
>> to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this the
>> acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions knew across
>> usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop or
>> hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this function,
>> like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a screen
>> > reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can name the
>> > region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader user
>> > about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be given a
>> > region name or label" to know they are entering into the carousel
>> > region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: JP Jamous
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 5:01AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Judith Blankman
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 9:35AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

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-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Judith Blankman
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 9:35AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: JP Jamous
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 10:24AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be acquainted with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Angela French
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 10:45AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
← Previous message | Next message →

I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container for holding film slides that were then projected one after another up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**

Angela French

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be acquainted with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Jared Smith
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 11:09AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
← Previous message | Next message →

So we have an element that apparently needs a description or
instructions because it isn't natively informative about what it does
or how it functions, yet it's so anomalous that we can't even come up
with a word to adequately describe it.

Maybe it's just me, but perhaps the entire thing should be rethunk.

Also http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/

Jared

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 11:41AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
← Previous message | Next message →

> That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

In my experience there are two types of carousels. One that cycles automatically with larger blocks of information and another type of control that displays a set of items such as products and has buttons to scroll left and right to expose more options. This second type of carousel is definitely not a slideshow and acts more like a scrollable list.

Jonathan

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:24 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be acquainted with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: JP Jamous
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 12:01PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Sure Jonathon, I am with you on that point as I have created a slideshow like that for a cosmetic business. People could check out the before pictures and the after pictures.

However, if you think about it in a general sense, Powerpoint slideshows aren't constantly running at a certain rate. Yet they are called slideshows. So having the general word of Slideshow is fine. Whether it is a static or dynamic slideshow that is getting more detailed about it and would depend on the type of slideshow.
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Avila
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:41 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

> That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

In my experience there are two types of carousels. One that cycles automatically with larger blocks of information and another type of control that displays a set of items such as products and has buttons to scroll left and right to expose more options. This second type of carousel is definitely not a slideshow and acts more like a scrollable list.

Jonathan

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:24 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be acquainted with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

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-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Mallory
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 3:16PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
← Previous message | Next message →

You mean a zoetrope? zomg!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container for
> holding film slides that were then projected one after another up onto a
> white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
>
> Angela French
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of JP Jamous
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
>
> Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though
> they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be
> acquainted with it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because
> it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand
> it.
>
> Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
>
>
>
> Judith Blankman
> Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
>
> WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
>
> A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to
> right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch
> many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to
> scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to
> it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of karthik k
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> what is Carousel could you please explain?
>
> On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> > it should be a learning curve.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> >> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
> >> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
> >> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
> >> carousel before entering into it.
> >>
> >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
> >> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
> >> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
> >> knew across usability or accessibility study!
> >>
> >> Poornima,
> >> Accessibility Tester.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >>
> >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
> >> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
> >> carousel if you have many.
> >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
> >> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
> >> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
> >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
> >> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
> >> discovery).
> >>
> >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> > Poornima,
> >> >
> >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
> >> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
> >> > it short to the
> >> point.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> >> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >> >
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
> >> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
> >> > carousel region.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> >> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
> >> > suggestions are appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Poornima,
> >> > Accessibility Tester
> >> >
> >> > > >> > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > > >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> >>
> >> > >> > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > >>
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
>
>
> --
> Thanking you,
> regards
> Karthik K.
> Phone no 9060989650
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > >

From: Rakesh P
Date: Wed, Dec 21 2016 9:08PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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For me being an Indian and English not being my primary language carousel
is a new term for me. As I could vaguely remember in airports the round
belt that carries luggage is announced as carousels. I observed it when I
have visited US, in India that is called as luggage belt. Since then I was
assuming carousels is not just a design word but used in general. Is it not
the case?


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You mean a zoetrope? zomg!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> > I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container for
> > holding film slides that were then projected one after another up onto a
> > white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> > myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> > confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of JP Jamous
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
> >
> > Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though
> > they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be
> > acquainted with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because
> > it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand
> > it.
> >
> > Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> > verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
> >
> >
> >
> > Judith Blankman
> > Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
> >
> > WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> > 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
> >
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> >
> > A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to
> > right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch
> > many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to
> > scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to
> > it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of karthik k
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > what is Carousel could you please explain?
> >
> > On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> > > it should be a learning curve.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > >> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> > >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
> > >> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
> > >> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
> > >> carousel before entering into it.
> > >>
> > >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
> > >> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
> > >> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
> > >> knew across usability or accessibility study!
> > >>
> > >> Poornima,
> > >> Accessibility Tester.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
> > >> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
> > >> carousel if you have many.
> > >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
> > >> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
> > >> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard
> accessible).
> > >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
> > >> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
> > >> discovery).
> > >>
> > >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> >
> > >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> > >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
> > >> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
> > >> > it short to the
> > >> point.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > >> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> > >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
> > >> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
> > >> > carousel region.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> > >> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
> > >> > suggestions are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> > Accessibility Tester
> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: JP Jamous
Date: Thu, Dec 22 2016 6:51AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Yes you are right we use it here at the baggage claim. That was why I gave you the explanation for it.

As someone who speaks 3 languages, I know how difficult that could be. I did not know what a Carousel meant 15 years ago when I was still learning English as it is not my native language. That is why I suggested "Slideshow" because you do know what that is.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Rakesh P
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:09 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

For me being an Indian and English not being my primary language carousel is a new term for me. As I could vaguely remember in airports the round belt that carries luggage is announced as carousels. I observed it when I have visited US, in India that is called as luggage belt. Since then I was assuming carousels is not just a design word but used in general. Is it not the case?


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You mean a zoetrope? zomg!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> > I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container
> > for holding film slides that were then projected one after another
> > up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> > myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> > confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of JP Jamous
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
> >
> > Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even
> > though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they
> > should be acquainted with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads
> > because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label
> > or understand it.
> >
> > Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> > verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
> >
> >
> >
> > Judith Blankman
> > Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
> >
> > WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> > 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
> >
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> >
> > A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from
> > left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so
> > they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep
> > using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would
> > click on it and go to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of karthik k
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > what is Carousel could you please explain?
> >
> > On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users
> > > but it should be a learning curve.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> > >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of
> > >> sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the
> > >> carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the
> > >> context of the carousel before entering into it.
> > >>
> > >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the
> > >> Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the
> > >> component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users,
> > >> appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!
> > >>
> > >> Poornima,
> > >> Accessibility Tester.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site
> > >> carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely
> > >> describes the type of carousel if you have many.
> > >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause,
> > >> stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that
> > >> this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be
> > >> keyboard
> accessible).
> > >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop
> > >> carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region
> > >> (for ease of discovery).
> > >>
> > >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> >
> > >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> > >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You
> > >> > can name the region whatever you want as long as it makes
> > >> > sense. Keep it short to the
> > >> point.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > >> > Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> > >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should
> > >> > be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into
> > >> > the carousel region.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name
> > >> > and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any
> > >> > implementation suggestions are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> > Accessibility Tester
> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >

From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Thu, Dec 22 2016 11:46AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Thanks Angela,

You just brought back painful childhood memories of visits to family friends and relatives that featured after dinner ordeals called "slideshows" of our vacation. The internet equivalent has not been an improvement...

Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resoources) Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)

Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:46 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container for holding film slides that were then projected one after another up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**

Angela French

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.

Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should be acquainted with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or understand it.

Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?



Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?


A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it and go to it.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of karthik k
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

what is Carousel could you please explain?

On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users but
> it should be a learning curve.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of sense
>> to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the carousel. This
>> will help screen reader user to understand the context of the
>> carousel before entering into it.
>>
>> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the Carousel
>> word to all screen reader users to understand the component?" Is this
>> the acceptable word among most users, appreciate your suggestions
>> knew across usability or accessibility study!
>>
>> Poornima,
>> Accessibility Tester.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>>
>> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site carousel
>> container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes the type of
>> carousel if you have many.
>> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause, stop
>> or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that this
>> function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
>> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop carousel,
>> place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for ease of
>> discovery).
>>
>> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> > Poornima,
>> >
>> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
>> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
>> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
>> > it short to the
>> point.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> > Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
>> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
>> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
>> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should be
>> > given a region name or label" to know they are entering into the
>> > carousel region.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
>> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any implementation
>> > suggestions are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Poornima,
>> > Accessibility Tester
>> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


--
Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650

From: Poornima
Date: Thu, Dec 22 2016 12:18PM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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Good points, thank you for the insights!

I am thinking that "along with labeling as slideshow the context of the carousel also to be called out" which makes it meaningful to the point for screen reader users. For example, "Advertisements slideshow", "Recent Announcements Slideshow", as suggested by many of you.

Happy Holidays!

-----Original Message-----
From: JP Jamous [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:52 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

Yes you are right we use it here at the baggage claim. That was why I gave you the explanation for it.

As someone who speaks 3 languages, I know how difficult that could be. I did not know what a Carousel meant 15 years ago when I was still learning English as it is not my native language. That is why I suggested "Slideshow" because you do know what that is.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Rakesh P
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:09 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

For me being an Indian and English not being my primary language carousel is a new term for me. As I could vaguely remember in airports the round belt that carries luggage is announced as carousels. I observed it when I have visited US, in India that is called as luggage belt. Since then I was assuming carousels is not just a design word but used in general. Is it not the case?


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You mean a zoetrope? zomg!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> > I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container
> > for holding film slides that were then projected one after another
> > up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> > myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> > confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of JP Jamous
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
> >
> > Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even
> > though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they
> > should be acquainted with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads
> > because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label
> > or understand it.
> >
> > Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> > verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
> >
> >
> >
> > Judith Blankman
> > Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
> >
> > WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> > 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
> >
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> >
> > A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from
> > left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so
> > they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep
> > using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would
> > click on it and go to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of karthik k
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > what is Carousel could you please explain?
> >
> > On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users
> > > but it should be a learning curve.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> > >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of
> > >> sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the
> > >> carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the
> > >> context of the carousel before entering into it.
> > >>
> > >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the
> > >> Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the
> > >> component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users,
> > >> appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!
> > >>
> > >> Poornima,
> > >> Accessibility Tester.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site
> > >> carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely
> > >> describes the type of carousel if you have many.
> > >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause,
> > >> stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that
> > >> this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be
> > >> keyboard
> accessible).
> > >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop
> > >> carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region
> > >> (for ease of discovery).
> > >>
> > >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> >
> > >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> > >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You
> > >> > can name the region whatever you want as long as it makes
> > >> > sense. Keep it short to the
> > >> point.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > >> > Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> > >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should
> > >> > be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into
> > >> > the carousel region.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name
> > >> > and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any
> > >> > implementation suggestions are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> > Accessibility Tester
> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >

From: Angela French
Date: Tue, Dec 27 2016 10:25AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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No, a carousel slide projector. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carousel_slide_projector

I'm dating myself.

Angela French

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mallory
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

You mean a zoetrope? zomg!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container
> for holding film slides that were then projected one after another up
> onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
>
> Angela French
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of JP Jamous
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
>
> Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even
> though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they should
> be acquainted with it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads because
> it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label or
> understand it.
>
> Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
>
>
>
> Judith Blankman
> Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
>
> WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
>
> A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from left
> to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so they can
> watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep using the
> mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would click on it
> and go to it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of karthik k
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
>
> what is Carousel could you please explain?
>
> On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users
> > but it should be a learning curve.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> >> Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of
> >> sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the
> >> carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the
> >> context of the carousel before entering into it.
> >>
> >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the
> >> Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the
> >> component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users,
> >> appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!
> >>
> >> Poornima,
> >> Accessibility Tester.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >>
> >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site
> >> carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely describes
> >> the type of carousel if you have many.
> >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause,
> >> stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that
> >> this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be keyboard accessible).
> >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop
> >> carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region (for
> >> ease of discovery).
> >>
> >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> > Poornima,
> >> >
> >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You can
> >> > name the region whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Keep
> >> > it short to the
> >> point.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >> > On Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >> >
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should
> >> > be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into
> >> > the carousel region.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name and
> >> > label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any
> >> > implementation suggestions are appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Poornima,
> >> > Accessibility Tester
> >> >
> >> > > >> > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > > >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> >>
> >> > >> > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > >>
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
>
>
> --
> Thanking you,
> regards
> Karthik K.
> Phone no 9060989650
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>

From: Angela French
Date: Tue, Dec 27 2016 10:29AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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I would say that the word carousel has come to apply to things that go around in circles.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carousel

Angela French



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Rakesh P
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:09 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

For me being an Indian and English not being my primary language carousel is a new term for me. As I could vaguely remember in airports the round belt that carries luggage is announced as carousels. I observed it when I have visited US, in India that is called as luggage belt. Since then I was assuming carousels is not just a design word but used in general. Is it not the case?


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You mean a zoetrope? zomg!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> > I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container
> > for holding film slides that were then projected one after another
> > up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> > myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> > confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of JP Jamous
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
> >
> > Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even
> > though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they
> > should be acquainted with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads
> > because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label
> > or understand it.
> >
> > Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> > verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
> >
> >
> >
> > Judith Blankman
> > Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
> >
> > WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> > 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
> >
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> >
> > A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from
> > left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so
> > they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep
> > using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would
> > click on it and go to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of karthik k
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > what is Carousel could you please explain?
> >
> > On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users
> > > but it should be a learning curve.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> > >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of
> > >> sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the
> > >> carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the
> > >> context of the carousel before entering into it.
> > >>
> > >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the
> > >> Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the
> > >> component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users,
> > >> appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!
> > >>
> > >> Poornima,
> > >> Accessibility Tester.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site
> > >> carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely
> > >> describes the type of carousel if you have many.
> > >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause,
> > >> stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that
> > >> this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be
> > >> keyboard
> accessible).
> > >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop
> > >> carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region
> > >> (for ease of discovery).
> > >>
> > >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> >
> > >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> > >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You
> > >> > can name the region whatever you want as long as it makes
> > >> > sense. Keep it short to the
> > >> point.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > >> > Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> > >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should
> > >> > be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into
> > >> > the carousel region.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name
> > >> > and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any
> > >> > implementation suggestions are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> > Accessibility Tester
> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >

From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Wed, Dec 28 2016 8:51AM
Subject: Re: How to label the carousel region?
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...and get nowhere

http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/


Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resoources) Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)

Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:30 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

I would say that the word carousel has come to apply to things that go around in circles.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carousel

Angela French



-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Rakesh P
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:09 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?

For me being an Indian and English not being my primary language carousel is a new term for me. As I could vaguely remember in airports the round belt that carries luggage is announced as carousels. I observed it when I have visited US, in India that is called as luggage belt. Since then I was assuming carousels is not just a design word but used in general. Is it not the case?


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You mean a zoetrope? zomg!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:45 PM, Angela French wrote:
> > I imagine use of the word "carousel" comes from the round container
> > for holding film slides that were then projected one after another
> > up onto a white screen. We had these in my house when I was a kid (dating
> > myself!). I believe these were called slide carousels. Not to be
> > confused with merry-go-rounds, also called carousels. **smile**
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of JP Jamous
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:24 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > That is why I suggested Slideshow. It is after all a slideshow.
> >
> > Customers should have some knowledge of what a slideshow is. Even
> > though they might be blind, this is a widely used term and they
> > should be acquainted with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:35 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > I am concerned with using the term "carousel" for rotating ads
> > because it's a design term, not necessarily how people would label
> > or understand it.
> >
> > Would adding hidden text that explains what it does be helpful or
> > verbose? Would it be annoying after a while?
> >
> >
> >
> > Judith Blankman
> > Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
> >
> > WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> > 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
> >
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JP Jamous [ = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 06:02 AM Central Standard Time
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> >
> > A carousel is a list of images, ads or even text that moves from
> > left to right or bottom to top. It is there for sighted people so
> > they can watch many ads or items for sale without having to keep
> > using the mouse to scroll down. Once they like something, they would
> > click on it and go to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of karthik k
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> >
> > what is Carousel could you please explain?
> >
> > On 12/21/16, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Yes both should work, carousal may be a new word to many SR users
> > > but it should be a learning curve.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:28 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Carousel or slideshow. Either would work.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> > >> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions, it makes a lot of
> > >> sense to add the "region" role and "aria-label" to name the
> > >> carousel. This will help screen reader user to understand the
> > >> context of the carousel before entering into it.
> > >>
> > >> Following this I have one more question "How familiar is the
> > >> Carousel word to all screen reader users to understand the
> > >> component?" Is this the acceptable word among most users,
> > >> appreciate your suggestions knew across usability or accessibility study!
> > >>
> > >> Poornima,
> > >> Accessibility Tester.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:59 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >>
> > >> Use role="region" and aria-label="site carousel" for a site
> > >> carousel container, or an aria-label that more precisely
> > >> describes the type of carousel if you have many.
> > >> Don't forget the requirement that users should be able to pause,
> > >> stop or hide any animation lasting more than 5 seconds (and that
> > >> this function, like any other webpage action, needs to be
> > >> keyboard
> accessible).
> > >> If screen readers require extra instructions on how to stop
> > >> carousel, place those at the beginning of the carousel region
> > >> (for ease of discovery).
> > >>
> > >> On 12/19/16, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> >
> > >> > Visit any Amazon.com page and you will notice that they have a
> > >> > screen reader message for their Similar Product carousel. You
> > >> > can name the region whatever you want as long as it makes
> > >> > sense. Keep it short to the
> > >> point.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > >> > Poornima via WebAIM-Forum
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:24 AM
> > >> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> > Subject: [WebAIM] How to label the carousel region?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > This is regarding a feedback I got to know from a screen reader
> > >> > user about Carousel element. His feedback says "carousel should
> > >> > be given a region name or label" to know they are entering into
> > >> > the carousel region.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to hear your advice for the carousel region name
> > >> > and label for Dot buttons present in carousel. Also any
> > >> > implementation suggestions are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Poornima,
> > >> > Accessibility Tester
> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >