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From: Kelly, Lynn
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2017 2:27PM
Subject: Captioning Open Source Media
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In working with an 3rd party educational media supplier to caption embedded videos in electronic textbooks that will be used in online courses, I keep running into some of the same questions, which invariably come from experienced professionals who are generally knowledgeable about accessibility guidelines. They just seem to be different interpretation of both copyright and process requirements.

Keeping in mind differences in public and private education, as we are referring to the latter, I'd like verification, suggestions, and a general sanity check on the concepts of "fair use" and "due diligence" related to copyrights in captioning existing media:


1) If the embedded e-book videos are open source, is there even a need to obtain approvals to caption (upload SRT file + transcript) from the publisher and/or content creator?


2) If we are unable to make contact with the content creator, can we legally proceed with media captioning?



3) If we cannot legally access and amend the files, and a transcript the best that we can do, will this suffice to meet accessibility requirements?


Yes, we have already considered options for replacing and updating the e-book.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lynn

Lynn Marie Kelly, MS
Manager, Accessible Design & Technology
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From: Bossley, Peter A.
Date: Fri, Feb 24 2017 8:52AM
Subject: Re: Captioning Open Source Media
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We take the position here that captioning for an individual student falls under the copyright exception, although we are a public institution and the chances of someone coming after us for captioning something for a disabled student seems to be so small as to not be worried about.
Transcrips for video don't meet our standards because they don't meet WCAG 2.0 AA.


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Subject: [WebAIM] Captioning Open Source Media

In working with an 3rd party educational media supplier to caption embedded videos in electronic textbooks that will be used in online courses, I keep running into some of the same questions, which invariably come from experienced professionals who are generally knowledgeable about accessibility guidelines. They just seem to be different interpretation of both copyright and process requirements.

Keeping in mind differences in public and private education, as we are referring to the latter, I'd like verification, suggestions, and a general sanity check on the concepts of "fair use" and "due diligence" related to copyrights in captioning existing media:


1) If the embedded e-book videos are open source, is there even a need to obtain approvals to caption (upload SRT file + transcript) from the publisher and/or content creator?


2) If we are unable to make contact with the content creator, can we legally proceed with media captioning?



3) If we cannot legally access and amend the files, and a transcript the best that we can do, will this suffice to meet accessibility requirements?


Yes, we have already considered options for replacing and updating the e-book.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lynn

Lynn Marie Kelly, MS
Manager, Accessible Design & Technology
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From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Fri, Feb 24 2017 8:58AM
Subject: Re: Captioning Open Source Media
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Silly question but how is it that captions would violate a copyright but a transcript would not?

Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)



Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.

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We take the position here that captioning for an individual student falls under the copyright exception, although we are a public institution and the chances of someone coming after us for captioning something for a disabled student seems to be so small as to not be worried about.
Transcrips for video don't meet our standards because they don't meet WCAG 2.0 AA.


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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Kelly, Lynn
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:28 PM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Captioning Open Source Media

In working with an 3rd party educational media supplier to caption embedded videos in electronic textbooks that will be used in online courses, I keep running into some of the same questions, which invariably come from experienced professionals who are generally knowledgeable about accessibility guidelines. They just seem to be different interpretation of both copyright and process requirements.

Keeping in mind differences in public and private education, as we are referring to the latter, I'd like verification, suggestions, and a general sanity check on the concepts of "fair use" and "due diligence" related to copyrights in captioning existing media:


1) If the embedded e-book videos are open source, is there even a need to obtain approvals to caption (upload SRT file + transcript) from the publisher and/or content creator?


2) If we are unable to make contact with the content creator, can we legally proceed with media captioning?



3) If we cannot legally access and amend the files, and a transcript the best that we can do, will this suffice to meet accessibility requirements?


Yes, we have already considered options for replacing and updating the e-book.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lynn

Lynn Marie Kelly, MS
Manager, Accessible Design & Technology
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P. 866.475.0317 X 11432 | C. 858.221.2500 E. = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Feb 24 2017 9:00AM
Subject: Re: Captioning Open Source Media
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3PlayMedia has an article related to captioning and fair use as related to YouTube.

http://www.3playmedia.com/2016/02/09/youtube-copyright-rules-is-it-legal-to-caption-public-youtube-videos/

Jonathan

Jonathan Avila
Chief Accessibility Officer
SSB BART Group 
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Kelly, Lynn
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:28 PM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Captioning Open Source Media

In working with an 3rd party educational media supplier to caption embedded videos in electronic textbooks that will be used in online courses, I keep running into some of the same questions, which invariably come from experienced professionals who are generally knowledgeable about accessibility guidelines. They just seem to be different interpretation of both copyright and process requirements.

Keeping in mind differences in public and private education, as we are referring to the latter, I'd like verification, suggestions, and a general sanity check on the concepts of "fair use" and "due diligence" related to copyrights in captioning existing media:


1) If the embedded e-book videos are open source, is there even a need to obtain approvals to caption (upload SRT file + transcript) from the publisher and/or content creator?


2) If we are unable to make contact with the content creator, can we legally proceed with media captioning?



3) If we cannot legally access and amend the files, and a transcript the best that we can do, will this suffice to meet accessibility requirements?


Yes, we have already considered options for replacing and updating the e-book.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lynn

Lynn Marie Kelly, MS
Manager, Accessible Design & Technology
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P. 866.475.0317 X 11432 | C. 858.221.2500 E. = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >

From: Jim Allan
Date: Sat, Feb 25 2017 8:32AM
Subject: Re: Captioning Open Source Media
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So...how does this work in the world of auto captioning features. Can video
posters turn it off?
Jim

On Feb 24, 2017 10:00 AM, "Jonathan Avila" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

3PlayMedia has an article related to captioning and fair use as related to
YouTube.

http://www.3playmedia.com/2016/02/09/youtube-copyright-
rules-is-it-legal-to-caption-public-youtube-videos/

Jonathan

Jonathan Avila
Chief Accessibility Officer
SSB BART Group
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703.637.8957 (Office)

Visit us online: Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
See you at CSUN in March!

The information contained in this transmission may be attorney privileged
and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or
entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.


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Of Kelly, Lynn
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:28 PM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Captioning Open Source Media

In working with an 3rd party educational media supplier to caption embedded
videos in electronic textbooks that will be used in online courses, I keep
running into some of the same questions, which invariably come from
experienced professionals who are generally knowledgeable about
accessibility guidelines. They just seem to be different interpretation of
both copyright and process requirements.

Keeping in mind differences in public and private education, as we are
referring to the latter, I'd like verification, suggestions, and a general
sanity check on the concepts of "fair use" and "due diligence" related to
copyrights in captioning existing media:


1) If the embedded e-book videos are open source, is there even a need
to obtain approvals to caption (upload SRT file + transcript) from the
publisher and/or content creator?


2) If we are unable to make contact with the content creator, can we
legally proceed with media captioning?



3) If we cannot legally access and amend the files, and a transcript
the best that we can do, will this suffice to meet accessibility
requirements?


Yes, we have already considered options for replacing and updating the
e-book.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lynn

Lynn Marie Kelly, MS
Manager, Accessible Design & Technology
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