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From: Tom Gilder
Date: Sat, Sep 07 2002 6:46PM
Subject: Headings
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Hi there

I'm just wondering about people's views on headings in pages. Most
content pages (as in not the home page) on the Web tend to have
basically two headings - a logo and a page title. These are often in
different location

The question is this: in a situation like this, what element should be
the <h1>?

It seems to me there are basically three options to this...

1) The logo is a <h1>, title is a <h2>
2) Logo isn't a heading at all, title is <h1>
3) Both heading AND title are <h1> (two <h1>s in the same document?)

...so which do you believe is best, and why?

I don't believe there is a "correct" answer to this as such, and I
really don't think this is a major issue that needs to be discussed
endlessly, but I would be interested in people's opinions.


Cheers
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Tom Gilder
http://tom.me.uk/


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From: Andrei Conta
Date: Sat, Sep 07 2002 9:46PM
Subject: automated Touring tests
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From: John Foliot - bytown internet
Date: Sun, Sep 08 2002 2:47PM
Subject: RE: Headings
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Tom,

I don't think a recurring Logo would qualify as a heading, regardless on
where it's located. So, to my thinking, your option (2) is the way to go.

Logos help brand a page, but generally they do not contribute to the logical
structure of the document beyond the branding exercise. A Heading groups
the subsequent content (paragraphs) into a logical unit, thus your page
could conceivably have three or four <h2>'s if that's the logical division
of data (and conceivably 2 or more <h1>s if truely appropriate - although I
can't think of an example off hand). I know that JAWs allows users to
"extract" headings into a "list" which they can then use to navigate though
any given page; in that case why would they want to "visit" the logo?

Anyway, just my $0.02

JF

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Gilder [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: September 7, 2002 9:37 PM
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> Subject: Headings
>
>
> Hi there
>
> I'm just wondering about people's views on headings in pages. Most
> content pages (as in not the home page) on the Web tend to have
> basically two headings - a logo and a page title. These are often in
> different location
>
> The question is this: in a situation like this, what element should be
> the <h1>?
>
> It seems to me there are basically three options to this...
>
> 1) The logo is a <h1>, title is a <h2>
> 2) Logo isn't a heading at all, title is <h1>
> 3) Both heading AND title are <h1> (two <h1>s in the same document?)
>
> ...so which do you believe is best, and why?
>
> I don't believe there is a "correct" answer to this as such, and I
> really don't think this is a major issue that needs to be discussed
> endlessly, but I would be interested in people's opinions.
>
>
> Cheers
> --
> Tom Gilder
> http://tom.me.uk/
>
>
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From: Raman Gulati
Date: Sun, Sep 08 2002 9:16PM
Subject: Re: Headings
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UNSUBSCRIBE ME....I DO NOT WHY I AM GETTING THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: Headings


> Tom,
>
> I don't think a recurring Logo would qualify as a heading, regardless on
> where it's located. So, to my thinking, your option (2) is the way to go.
>
> Logos help brand a page, but generally they do not contribute to the
logical
> structure of the document beyond the branding exercise. A Heading groups
> the subsequent content (paragraphs) into a logical unit, thus your page
> could conceivably have three or four <h2>'s if that's the logical division
> of data (and conceivably 2 or more <h1>s if truely appropriate - although
I
> can't think of an example off hand). I know that JAWs allows users to
> "extract" headings into a "list" which they can then use to navigate
though
> any given page; in that case why would they want to "visit" the logo?
>
> Anyway, just my $0.02
>
> JF
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Gilder [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > Sent: September 7, 2002 9:37 PM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: Headings
> >
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > I'm just wondering about people's views on headings in pages. Most
> > content pages (as in not the home page) on the Web tend to have
> > basically two headings - a logo and a page title. These are often in
> > different location
> >
> > The question is this: in a situation like this, what element should be
> > the <h1>?
> >
> > It seems to me there are basically three options to this...
> >
> > 1) The logo is a <h1>, title is a <h2>
> > 2) Logo isn't a heading at all, title is <h1>
> > 3) Both heading AND title are <h1> (two <h1>s in the same document?)
> >
> > ...so which do you believe is best, and why?
> >
> > I don't believe there is a "correct" answer to this as such, and I
> > really don't think this is a major issue that needs to be discussed
> > endlessly, but I would be interested in people's opinions.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Tom Gilder
> > http://tom.me.uk/
> >
> >
> > ----
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or view list archives,
> > visit http://www.webaim.org/discussion/
> >
>
>
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