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From: Ian.Lloyd@nationwide.co.uk
Date: Tue, Sep 24 2002 7:51AM
Subject: Accessible site maps - advice please
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I'm looking for some advice on how best to design a site map that is easily
accessible.

For info, the current version is here:

http://www.nationwide.co.uk/sitemap.asp

I am inclined to go for a simpler layout using unordered lists and indenting
where appropriate. Naturally, I will make sure that font sizes are not fixed
and so on.

So, given that I am thinking of using <ul> <li> and so on, any tips?

Early stages at the moment, so any advice greatfully received.

Ian Lloyd, Electronic Channels
Nationwide Building Society

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From: Mark Rew
Date: Tue, Sep 24 2002 8:12AM
Subject: Re: Accessible site maps - advice please
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The easiest and most useful thing to include is meaningful alt attributes with
your area elements.
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> I'm looking for some advice on how best to design a site map that is easily
> accessible.
>
> For info, the current version is here:
>
> http://www.nationwide.co.uk/sitemap.asp
>
> I am inclined to go for a simpler layout using unordered lists and indenting
> where appropriate. Naturally, I will make sure that font sizes are not fixed
> and so on.
>
> So, given that I am thinking of using <ul> <li> and so on, any tips?
>
> Early stages at the moment, so any advice greatfully received.
>
> Ian Lloyd, Electronic Channels
> Nationwide Building Society
>
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> tel: 01793-655260
> fax: 01793-656368
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From: Tom Gilder
Date: Tue, Sep 24 2002 8:44AM
Subject: Re: Accessible site maps - advice please
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On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 3:37:21 PM, you wrote:
> http://www.nationwide.co.uk/sitemap.asp
> I am inclined to go for a simpler layout using unordered lists and indenting
> where appropriate. Naturally, I will make sure that font sizes are not fixed
> and so on.

Simpler would be better I feel. Even looking at the current map is a
bit confusing and all over the place.

> So, given that I am thinking of using <ul> <li> and so on, any tips?

Yes, nested <ul> seems appropriate to me. I wouldn't use one great big
list though, breaking it up with some <h2> elements for the main
headings would aid navigation.

> Early stages at the moment, so any advice greatfully received.

Another thing to consider about that page is the onchange <select>.
Try navigating to another page using the select *just* using the
keyboard in IE - have fun :)

I'm glad that there's a UK financial company actually paying attention
to accessibility, some many other sites are utterly dire as I found
out on a recent trawl around some others.

For instance you've got HSBC's request information form that allows
you to get Braille, large print and audio cassette versions of
literature - but to get to the form you need a modern, script-enabled
browser!

And then there's C&G's accessibility page where they don't allow you
to tab through links - http://www.cheltglos.co.uk/accessibility_0.html.


Cheers
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http://tom.me.uk/


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