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From: Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 9:33AM
Subject: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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Hello all,


I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:


In this scenario:
<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">Learn More</a>
</div>


I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions absolutely off screen:

<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">
<span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New Product!:</span>
Learn More
</a>
</div>


Is this valid?


Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:

<h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1 typeNode2">Learn More</a>
</div>


Which is better?


thanks,

Mike



---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 10:23AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a> tag. That would override the actual link caption.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Hello all,


I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:


In this scenario:
<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">Learn More</a>
</div>


I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions absolutely off screen:

<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">
<span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New Product!:</span>
Learn More
</a>
</div>


Is this valid?


Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:

<h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1 typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>


Which is better?


thanks,

Mike



---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 10:43AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of using the aria-labelledby attribute.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a> tag. That would override the actual link caption.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Hello all,


I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:


In this scenario:
<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">Learn More</a>
</div>


I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions absolutely off screen:

<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">
<span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New Product!:</span>
Learn More
</a>
</div>


Is this valid?


Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:

<h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1 typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>


Which is better?


thanks,

Mike



---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 10:50AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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As for which aria attr to use, it looks like "aria-labelledby" fits my situation best. It applies when there is an existing visible text node to refer to, versus aria-label, which would apply when a label or description of some sort needs to be added.
Taken from this reference (https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose):



With the aria-labelledby attribute, authors can use a visible text element on the page as a label for a focusable element (a form control or a link). For example, a "read more..." link could be associated with the text of the heading of the preceding section to make the purpose of the link unambiguous


---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:43:28 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of using the aria-labelledby attribute.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a> tag. That would override the actual link caption.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Hello all,


I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:


In this scenario:
<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">Learn More</a>
</div>


I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions absolutely off screen:

<h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any">
<span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New Product!:</span>
Learn More
</a>
</div>


Is this valid?


Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:

<h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
<span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
<a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1 typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>


Which is better?


thanks,

Mike



---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: Sean Keegan
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 4:27PM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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> Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a>
> and tie it to the <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID,

I did this for a site and it worked just fine...until content editors made
an update. Their approach was to delete the entire paragraph of text and
hyperlink and then copy/paste into the editor the new content. As they were
not familiar with aria attributes or dealing with code, the whole thing
fell apart quickly.

So, it works fine as long as the content does not require regular editing
or updates by others.

Take care,
Sean

From: cb
Date: Tue, Dec 12 2017 4:39PM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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I would hesitate to do something that would make the aria-label or
aria-labeledby content significantly different from the visible content. If
you're using a combination magnifier/screenreader (such as for low vision),
or highlighter/screenreader (such as for certain cognitive disabilities) it
could be confusing to have what's read out loud for a link not match what
you can see.

Caroline

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne) <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> As for which aria attr to use, it looks like "aria-labelledby" fits my
> situation best. It applies when there is an existing visible text node to
> refer to, versus aria-label, which would apply when a label or description
> of some sort needs to be added.
> Taken from this reference (https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/
> wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose):
>
>
>
> With the aria-labelledby attribute, authors can use a visible text element
> on the page as a label for a focusable element (a form control or a link).
> For example, a "read more..." link could be associated with the text of the
> heading of the preceding section to make the purpose of the link unambiguous
>
>
> ---
> Mike S. Henry
> Creative Services Lead
> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
> Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:43:28 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>
> The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of
> using the aria-labelledby attribute.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of JP Jamous
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>
> Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a>
> tag. That would override the actual link caption.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context
> for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can
> hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:
>
>
> In this scenario:
> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
> <a href="any">Learn More</a>
> </div>
>
>
> I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions
> absolutely off screen:
>
> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
> <a href="any">
> <span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New
> Product!:</span>
> Learn More
> </a>
> </div>
>
>
> Is this valid?
>
>
> Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the
> <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:
>
> <h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
> <a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1
> typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>
>
>
> Which is better?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ---
> Mike S. Henry
> Creative Services Lead
> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Wed, Dec 13 2017 5:14AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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I'd just go with the good old visibly hidden text )except I would move
it to after the visible "learn more" and add the word "about" new
item" (make sure to start the visibly hidden span with a whitespace).



On 12/12/17, cb < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I would hesitate to do something that would make the aria-label or
> aria-labeledby content significantly different from the visible content. If
> you're using a combination magnifier/screenreader (such as for low vision),
> or highlighter/screenreader (such as for certain cognitive disabilities) it
> could be confusing to have what's read out loud for a link not match what
> you can see.
>
> Caroline
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne) <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> As for which aria attr to use, it looks like "aria-labelledby" fits my
>> situation best. It applies when there is an existing visible text node to
>> refer to, versus aria-label, which would apply when a label or description
>> of some sort needs to be added.
>> Taken from this reference (https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/
>> wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose):
>>
>>
>>
>> With the aria-labelledby attribute, authors can use a visible text element
>> on the page as a label for a focusable element (a form control or a link).
>> For example, a "read more..." link could be associated with the text of
>> the
>> heading of the preceding section to make the purpose of the link
>> unambiguous
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
>> Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:43:28 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of
>> using the aria-labelledby attribute.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of JP Jamous
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a>
>> tag. That would override the actual link caption.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context
>> for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can
>> hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:
>>
>>
>> In this scenario:
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">Learn More</a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions
>> absolutely off screen:
>>
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">
>> <span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New
>> Product!:</span>
>> Learn More
>> </a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> Is this valid?
>>
>>
>> Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the
>> <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:
>>
>> <h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1
>> typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>
>>
>>
>> Which is better?
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Date: Wed, Dec 13 2017 6:19AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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Thank you all for the excellent feedback. Great suggestions.
Sean, I hadn't even considered what happens if the content is changed down the road. That could really muddle everything up.

I think I'll stick the the "visiblyHidden" text... seems simpler and more future-proof.


thanks again,

Mike


---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:14:39 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

I'd just go with the good old visibly hidden text )except I would move
it to after the visible "learn more" and add the word "about" new
item" (make sure to start the visibly hidden span with a whitespace).



On 12/12/17, cb < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I would hesitate to do something that would make the aria-label or
> aria-labeledby content significantly different from the visible content. If
> you're using a combination magnifier/screenreader (such as for low vision),
> or highlighter/screenreader (such as for certain cognitive disabilities) it
> could be confusing to have what's read out loud for a link not match what
> you can see.
>
> Caroline
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne) <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> As for which aria attr to use, it looks like "aria-labelledby" fits my
>> situation best. It applies when there is an existing visible text node to
>> refer to, versus aria-label, which would apply when a label or description
>> of some sort needs to be added.
>> Taken from this reference (https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/
>> wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose):
>>
>>
>>
>> With the aria-labelledby attribute, authors can use a visible text element
>> on the page as a label for a focusable element (a form control or a link).
>> For example, a "read more..." link could be associated with the text of
>> the
>> heading of the preceding section to make the purpose of the link
>> unambiguous
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
>> Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:43:28 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of
>> using the aria-labelledby attribute.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of JP Jamous
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a>
>> tag. That would override the actual link caption.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context
>> for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can
>> hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:
>>
>>
>> In this scenario:
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">Learn More</a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions
>> absolutely off screen:
>>
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">
>> <span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New
>> Product!:</span>
>> Learn More
>> </a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> Is this valid?
>>
>>
>> Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the
>> <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:
>>
>> <h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.</span>
>> <a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1
>> typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>
>>
>>
>> Which is better?
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Wolfgang Berndorfer
Date: Fri, Dec 15 2017 11:16AM
Subject: Re: Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
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Sorry, I am late!
But: The maual effort for coding aria-labbeledby correctly seems rather
great to me.
Don't have any idea about CMS tools to realise the necessary
ID-constructions. And if there are any, are they known?

So why not simply use aria-label="More about [something]" on the <a>-tag?
This is known by more authors, causes less tipping errors and shows
texting-efforts more intuitivelly by copy-and-past-coding.

No question that a labbeledby-construction would be smarter, if it could be
generated technically.

From the alps!

Wolfgang
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von Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017 14:19
An: WebAIM Discussion List
Betreff: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

Thank you all for the excellent feedback. Great suggestions.
Sean, I hadn't even considered what happens if the content is changed down
the road. That could really muddle everything up.

I think I'll stick the the "visiblyHidden" text... seems simpler and more
future-proof.


thanks again,

Mike


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Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962

From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:14:39 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?

I'd just go with the good old visibly hidden text )except I would move
it to after the visible "learn more" and add the word "about" new
item" (make sure to start the visibly hidden span with a whitespace).



On 12/12/17, cb < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I would hesitate to do something that would make the aria-label or
> aria-labeledby content significantly different from the visible content.
If
> you're using a combination magnifier/screenreader (such as for low
vision),
> or highlighter/screenreader (such as for certain cognitive disabilities)
it
> could be confusing to have what's read out loud for a link not match what
> you can see.
>
> Caroline
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne) <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> As for which aria attr to use, it looks like "aria-labelledby" fits my
>> situation best. It applies when there is an existing visible text node to
>> refer to, versus aria-label, which would apply when a label or
description
>> of some sort needs to be added.
>> Taken from this reference (https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/
>> wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose):
>>
>>
>>
>> With the aria-labelledby attribute, authors can use a visible text
element
>> on the page as a label for a focusable element (a form control or a
link).
>> For example, a "read more..." link could be associated with the text of
>> the
>> heading of the preceding section to make the purpose of the link
>> unambiguous
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
>> Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:43:28 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> The other option would be to use aria-describedby on the link instead of
>> using the aria-labelledby attribute.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of JP Jamous
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:24 AM
>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Although I don't like that approach, you can use aria-label="" in the <a>
>> tag. That would override the actual link caption.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
>> Behalf Of Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:33 AM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Adding ARIA tag to "Click here" links?
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to determine which is the better solution to providing context
>> for "Learn More"/"Click here" links. For static content (where I can
>> hardcode directly into the markup), I settled on this solution:
>>
>>
>> In this scenario:
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing
elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">Learn More</a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> I've added sr-only supplemental text. The class "visiblyHidden" positions
>> absolutely off screen:
>>
>> <h2>Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing
elit.</span>
>> <a href="any">
>> <span class="visiblyHidden">Introducing this New
>> Product!:</span>
>> Learn More
>> </a>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> Is this valid?
>>
>>
>> Or should I use an aria-labelledby attribute on the <a> and tie it to the
>> <h2> AND the <a>, via an ID, like so?:
>>
>> <h2 id="typeNode1">Introducing this New Product!</h2>
>> <span>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing
elit.</span>
>> <a href="any"id="typeNode2" aria-labelledby="typeNode1
>> typeNode2">Learn More</a> </div>
>>
>>
>> Which is better?
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mike S. Henry
>> Creative Services Lead
>> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
>> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System
>> Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
>> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>>
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >


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