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From: Kakarla Meharoon
Date: Tue, May 08 2018 5:14AM
Subject: Role="presentation"
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Hi,
For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role=" presentation"
and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Tue, May 08 2018 5:18AM
Subject: Re: Role="presentation"
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you will need aria-hidden=true as role=presentation will only hide the link
semantics but not the link text
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On 8 May 2018 at 12:14, Kakarla Meharoon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role=" presentation"
> and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
> > > > >
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Tue, May 08 2018 5:51AM
Subject: Re: Role="presentation"
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steve is right.
In the following example, a screen reader will read the word "foo"
with no context.
<a href="#" role="presentation" tabindex="-1">Foo</a>
It's the same as
<span>foo</span>
If you instead use tabindex="-1" and aria-hidden="true" you totally
hide the thingy.
On 5/8/18, Steve Faulkner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> you will need aria-hidden=true as role=presentation will only hide the link
> semantics but not the link text
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> Current Standards Work @W3C
> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>;
>
> On 8 May 2018 at 12:14, Kakarla Meharoon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role=" presentation"
>> and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >
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From: lynn.holdsworth@gmail.com
Date: Tue, May 08 2018 8:39AM
Subject: Re: Role="presentation"
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If there is any way not to have duplicate links that would be even better. Having duplicates that can't receive focus could cause confusion for some keyboard users who can see something that looks like a link, but as they tab through the application the focus moves right on by without stopping.
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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Kakarla Meharoon
Sent: 08 May 2018 12:15
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Subject: [WebAIM] Role="presentation"
Hi,
For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role=" presentation"
and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
From: Mallory
Date: Tue, May 08 2018 11:11AM
Subject: Re: Role="presentation"
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One could argue it's not a whole lot better when things look like links, and the keyboarder *can* tab to them, but is fooled into thinking they all go to different places (links to the same place should have ~ the same text, no?). Depending on the context, you feel kinda cheated either way.
I try to have one "canonical" link and anything nearby that needs to, say, be reachable with mouse clicks or something, gets a JS listener that clicks the link. For example an image that's meant to be clickable right under a clearly-a-link text above. I've seen people stretch the anchors' padding to cover larger areas to get the same effect, though on pages like Meetup.com when you're zoomed in it kinda backfires into "the entire visible page is clickable, and you're still not certain where it goes to exactly, because there's a whole book of text inside."
cheers,
_mallory
On Tue, May 8, 2018, at 4:39 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:
> If there is any way not to have duplicate links that would be even
> better. Having duplicates that can't receive focus could cause confusion
> for some keyboard users who can see something that looks like a link,
> but as they tab through the application the focus moves right on by
> without stopping.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Kakarla Meharoon
> Sent: 08 May 2018 12:15
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] Role="presentation"
>
> Hi,
>
> For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role="
> presentation"
> and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > >
From: lynn.holdsworth@gmail.com
Date: Thu, May 10 2018 7:34AM
Subject: Re: Role="presentation"
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Yes Mallory, your approach is the one I'd use too: add a click event to anything that visually appears to be part of a block link. It does get a little bit annoying when the screenreader announces "clickable" when it comes across these pseudo-links, and perhaps increasing the padding on the original anchor is a better way to go, but it is potentially a design nightmare.
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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Mallory
Sent: 08 May 2018 18:11
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Role="presentation"
One could argue it's not a whole lot better when things look like links, and the keyboarder *can* tab to them, but is fooled into thinking they all go to different places (links to the same place should have ~ the same text, no?). Depending on the context, you feel kinda cheated either way.
I try to have one "canonical" link and anything nearby that needs to, say, be reachable with mouse clicks or something, gets a JS listener that clicks the link. For example an image that's meant to be clickable right under a clearly-a-link text above. I've seen people stretch the anchors' padding to cover larger areas to get the same effect, though on pages like Meetup.com when you're zoomed in it kinda backfires into "the entire visible page is clickable, and you're still not certain where it goes to exactly, because there's a whole book of text inside."
cheers,
_mallory
On Tue, May 8, 2018, at 4:39 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:
> If there is any way not to have duplicate links that would be even
> better. Having duplicates that can't receive focus could cause
> confusion for some keyboard users who can see something that looks
> like a link, but as they tab through the application the focus moves
> right on by without stopping.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Kakarla Meharoon
> Sent: 08 May 2018 12:15
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] Role="presentation"
>
> Hi,
>
> For the duplicate link which is redundant, if we add role="
> presentation"
> and tabindex=-1 screen reader will ignore the link?
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>