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From: Kolitsky, Michael A PHD
Date: Tue, Jun 12 2018 12:39PM
Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 11
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I think I may have sent Sarah the following two web pages, one of which looks at a 3D print of a bar graph and compares it to how the same graph would appear designed as a table for a screen reader. Note that the bar graph is laid atop an iPad Pro in a 3D printed holder so that a finger touch now produces the information for the bar graph labels and bar graph results. This approach provides access according to the user's choice rather than how one would have to go through a table in linear fashion. Check out http://www.nextgenemedia.com/3DprintComplexGraphics.html to see more of what I mean.

The other web address shows how one might take the images in an Open Education Resource such as the OpenStax Anatomy and Physiology I etext and adds links below each graphic where a raised line graphic made into a template can be laid atop an iPad and then when touching the raised line graphic, audio can be generated speaking the name of the structure or region being touched. Compare this to the alt text for those images which simply lists all the names for the structures or regions which doesn't help at all in pointing out to a screen reader the link between the alt text names and where they are located on the drawing of the human male or female. This link is at http://www.nextgenemedia.com/Anatomical%20Terminology%20-%20Anatomy%20&;%20Physiology%20-%20OpenStax%20CNX.html .

Hope this helps

Mike

Michael Kolitsky, Ph.D.
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The University of Texas at El Paso
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From: Pyatt, Elizabeth J
Date: Mon, Jun 18 2018 6:32AM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 15
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PBS shows may be a good source. WGBH does audio description for commercial TV, but they may do science shows like Nova.
If you contact them, they may have examples for universities.

Hope this helps.
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> 1. Re: Examples of Audio-Description (Emily Ogle)
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Examples of Audio-Description
> Date: June 15, 2018 at 3:06:01 PM EDT
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> Additionally, DCMP's description key is structured for instructional description. Www.dcmp.org.
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>> Colleagues,
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>> Several of our - the National Institutes of Health's - organizations are working on improving their multimedia accessibility, specifically around audio-descriptions. We've been finding a great many examples of videos and television shows with AD, but no examples of instructional or informational videos, multimedia, television programs, or films.
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>> We are currently researching http://www.acb.org/adp/streaming.html and http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html. Netflix apparently has a list of programs which have AD (http://www.netflix.com/browse/audio-description) but it's password protected – and I don't know if their catalog/catalogue has programs of the type we're seeking to study.
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>> Any links to AD examples of informational, instructional, documentary, non ‘entertainment'-type programs would be greatly appreciated!
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From: Edy kok
Date: Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:58AM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 23
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> 1. Re: PDF with multiple References to same Note (Philip Kiff)
> 2. Re: Accessible spreadsheets (Karlen Communications)
> 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode (glen walker)
> 4. Re: [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode
> (Birkir R. Gunnarsson)
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] PDF with multiple References to same Note
> I've run into this issue a number of time before, Alan, and don't have a
> good solution.
>
> If forced to choose, I would go with your option (2), and just ignore
> later instances of the footnote.
>
> In cases where multiple instances of the same footnote appear within a
> single table, I have instead placed the note after the end of the entire
> table. Likewise if multiple instances of the same footnote appear within
> a single paragraph.
>
> But in your case, you have multiple references in multiple paragraphs,
> and I don't know what the best practice is for that.
>
> I will note that it is possible to edit a PDF and add content for screen
> readers only without affecting the visual appearance. To do this, you
> simply add white text (or use whatever colour matches the background
> colour). Then you tag the content as text. Then edit the content order
> and tag tree to place the tag/container into the correct location
> directly after each additional instance of the reference number. Using
> this technique, you could add multiple copies of the same footnote
> without affecting the visual display. But it seems obvious to me that
> this is a "hacky" and therefore provisional method of dealing with the
> issue, and not one that should be a recommended practice.
>
> Phil.
>
> Philip Kiff
> D4K Communications
>
>
> On 2018-06-22 9:16 AM, Alan Zaitchik wrote:
> > Any suggestions on the best practice for the following case?
> >
> > I have a 2 page PDF where there are multiple references in multiple
> paragraphs to the same footnote. Visually all the footnotes are collected
> at the end of the document. The references are on both pages of the
> document.
> >
> > The relevant standard for accessibility is the new HHS standard, but I
> cannot place the Note tag after the Reference tags in the reading order --
> and I cannot place each after the paragraphs in which the Reference tag
> occurs since there are multiple such Reference tags for the same Note tag!
> >
> > From
> https://www.hhs.gov/web/section-508/making-files-accessible/pdf-required/index.html
> -- "Move the footnote text in the tag structure to either directly after
> the reference number, or directly after the paragraph that contains the
> reference number."
> >
> > I have no access to the original InDesign document, and I cannot edit
> the PDF (e.g. by creating multiple instances of the same footnotes) without
> destroying its appearance.
> >
> > What is the least annoying way to handle this for screen reader users?
> >
> > (1) Keep it the way it is.
> > (2) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the first
> reference to it.
> > (3) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the paragraph
> containing the first reference to it.
> > (4) Something else?
> >
> > Thanks for suggestions!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > >
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:53:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible spreadsheets
> I can only address JAWS 18.
>
> There are verbosity settings and keyboard commands to navigate column and
> row titles as well as various areas of the worksheet and workbook. It is
> important that each worksheet have a unique name that is meaningful to the
> content of the worksheet.
>
> When I land on a cell with a formula, JAWS will read both the formula and
> the result.
>
> My biggest problem is with JAWS losing focus and just shifting the screen
> slightly up or slightly down without saying anything. Usually the only way
> to get it to work again in Excel is to restart my computer. This is with
> Word 2016 through Office 365 and Windows 10 all updates installed. I've had
> this problem for years so don't even think about it unless I'm
> concentrating
> on remediating a worksheet and suddenly lose speech.
>
> The other huge issue for those of us using screen readers or Text-to-Speech
> tools is not being able to see or visually decode the layout of the data on
> the worksheet. When remediating Excel content I use Word to write a
> "narrative" of how the worksheet is laid out, provide links to main topic
> areas and let the end-user know if there are blank columns and rows used
> for
> visual effect. Most document authors won't let you change the layout of
> their worksheets/workbook. I find a blank cell near the top of the
> worksheet
> and add the text from Word, making it white text on a white background
> makes
> it available to screen readers and Text-to-Speech tools but not visible
> unless focus is in that cell. Same with the links, find a place near the
> top
> of the worksheet, let people know in the narrative that they are there and
> where they start and make them white text on a white background.
>
> Microsoft also has some tips on making Excel worksheets accessible:
>
> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Make-your-Excel-spreadsheets-access
> ible-6cc05fc5-1314-48b5-8eb3-683e49b3e593
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> Cheers, Karen
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible spreadsheets
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> The recent thread about Sec. 508 regarding Excel prompted this question:
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> How accessible are spreadsheets with current assistive technologies?
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> I'm sure the answer will be "it depends," but let's take 2 basic samples:
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> 1. A spreadsheet of just plain data, such as a directory with names,
> addresses and emails in rows and columns.
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> column of numbers.
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode
> Birkir, when you say that navigation to a grid should automatically switch
> to application/forms mode, are you saying a well-behaved screen reader
> should do that for you or that the web developer should be forcing it
> somehow?
>
> The spec for the grid role doesn't explicitly say a user agent should
> switch modes but it does say the author should manage the focus.
>
> When navigating to a grid, NVDA doesn't give an audible notification that
> forms mode switched but JAWS does. Using the right arrow after entering a
> grid, NVDA just reads character by character whereas JAWS will navigate to
> the next grid cell.
>
> So it sounds like JAWS handles the grid as you explained but NVDA does not.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> > I would go with a grid
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#grid
> > Once inside a grid the screen reader should automatically switch to
> > application/forms mode passing keys through to the webpage.
> > Then you can set up keyboard listeners to respond to the arrow key
> presses.
> > For the JQuery script see this example of an accessible date picker:
> > https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/date-pickers/sf-date-picker
> > I workd with a developer to create this. As it was done in 2014 when
> > the grid role was poorly supported we used role="application" to force
> > the application mode, I believe that is no longer necessary.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/22/18, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Here is a good design for a calendar:
> > > http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%
> > 20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(Basic)/demo.htm
> > >
> > > If you want to add in appointments, tell the user how many appointments
> > > there are each day and allow them to hit enter to see what is on that
> day
> > > and escape to exit back to the date picker.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:23 AM Tim Harshbarger <
> > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Instead of using role="application", it would be better to use an ARIA
> > >> design pattern that more closely matched the interaction.
> > >>
> > >> The thing with role="application" is that, while it puts screen reader
> > >> users in forms mode, it doesn't really tell us how to get around the
> > >> application. So using role="application" for one part of the page is
> > not
> > >> likely to inform screen reader users that pressing the up and down
> arrow
> > >> keys will move from meeting to meeting and pressing the left and right
> > >> arrow keys will move between days.
> > >>
> > >> A listbox might work because a screen reader user will expect the up
> and
> > >> down arrow keys to move up and down the list. Unfortunately, there is
> > >> also
> > >> an expectation that using the left and right arrow keys will do the
> same
> > >> exact thing as using the up and down arrow keys. Users would not
> expect
> > >> the left and right arrow keys to move between days. If you used a
> > >> listbox,
> > >> you likely would need to explicitly inform users of what the left and
> > >> right
> > >> arrow keys do differently.
> > >>
> > >> To me, this sounds more like a grid. In a grid, there would likely be
> > a
> > >> better expectation that the up and down arrow keys would move within
> the
> > >> day while the left and right arrow keys move between days.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Tim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > >> Behalf Of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 1:27 AM
> > >> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [WebAIM] Navigation in application mode
> > >>
> > >> Hi all.
> > >>
> > >> I have a dev who is doing something really non-standard. As far as I
> > >> understand the issue at this point of time. He wants to use the
> up/down
> > >> arrow to move between meetings. The left and right arrow moving
> between
> > >> the
> > >> days. Using non-application mode will not work due to screen readers
> as
> > >> far
> > >> as I can tell. But he wants use the application role to achieve this.
> > >> These
> > >> UI I am referring to have buttons for next and prior day. The meetings
> > >> from
> > >> memory are not in any UI element like a list.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas how this can be achieved without using application mode?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> How does the javascript keyboard event handle keyboard navigation when
> > it
> > >> is
> > >> not on an element. Do you have to apply the keyboard event to the body
> > of
> > >> the html and track from there?
> > >>
> > >> Sean
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:53:55 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode
> The
> W3C spec never specifies exactly how a user agent should behave, but
> strongly hints at it.
> If NVDA does not switch into application mode inside a grid that's an
> NVDA bug (unless the grid is marked as readonly).
> This is why authors still use the application role on a grid, like we
> did with the datepicker, but screen readers should address these
> issues. I will go look at NVDA issues and file one if needed.
>
>
>
> On 6/22/18, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Birkir, when you say that navigation to a grid should automatically
> switch
> > to application/forms mode, are you saying a well-behaved screen reader
> > should do that for you or that the web developer should be forcing it
> > somehow?
> >
> > The spec for the grid role doesn't explicitly say a user agent should
> > switch modes but it does say the author should manage the focus.
> >
> > When navigating to a grid, NVDA doesn't give an audible notification that
> > forms mode switched but JAWS does. Using the right arrow after entering
> a
> > grid, NVDA just reads character by character whereas JAWS will navigate
> to
> > the next grid cell.
> >
> > So it sounds like JAWS handles the grid as you explained but NVDA does
> not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> I would go with a grid
> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#grid
> >> Once inside a grid the screen reader should automatically switch to
> >> application/forms mode passing keys through to the webpage.
> >> Then you can set up keyboard listeners to respond to the arrow key
> >> presses.
> >> For the JQuery script see this example of an accessible date picker:
> >> https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/date-pickers/sf-date-picker
> >> I workd with a developer to create this. As it was done in 2014 when
> >> the grid role was poorly supported we used role="application" to force
> >> the application mode, I believe that is no longer necessary.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/22/18, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > Here is a good design for a calendar:
> >> > http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%
> >> 20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(Basic)/demo.htm
> >> >
> >> > If you want to add in appointments, tell the user how many
> appointments
> >> > there are each day and allow them to hit enter to see what is on that
> >> > day
> >> > and escape to exit back to the date picker.
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:23 AM Tim Harshbarger <
> >> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Instead of using role="application", it would be better to use an
> ARIA
> >> >> design pattern that more closely matched the interaction.
> >> >>
> >> >> The thing with role="application" is that, while it puts screen
> reader
> >> >> users in forms mode, it doesn't really tell us how to get around the
> >> >> application. So using role="application" for one part of the page is
> >> not
> >> >> likely to inform screen reader users that pressing the up and down
> >> >> arrow
> >> >> keys will move from meeting to meeting and pressing the left and
> right
> >> >> arrow keys will move between days.
> >> >>
> >> >> A listbox might work because a screen reader user will expect the up
> >> >> and
> >> >> down arrow keys to move up and down the list. Unfortunately, there
> is
> >> >> also
> >> >> an expectation that using the left and right arrow keys will do the
> >> >> same
> >> >> exact thing as using the up and down arrow keys. Users would not
> >> >> expect
> >> >> the left and right arrow keys to move between days. If you used a
> >> >> listbox,
> >> >> you likely would need to explicitly inform users of what the left and
> >> >> right
> >> >> arrow keys do differently.
> >> >>
> >> >> To me, this sounds more like a grid. In a grid, there would likely
> be
> >> a
> >> >> better expectation that the up and down arrow keys would move within
> >> >> the
> >> >> day while the left and right arrow keys move between days.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Tim
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> >> >> Behalf Of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> >> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 1:27 AM
> >> >> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [WebAIM] Navigation in application mode
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a dev who is doing something really non-standard. As far as I
> >> >> understand the issue at this point of time. He wants to use the
> >> >> up/down
> >> >> arrow to move between meetings. The left and right arrow moving
> >> >> between
> >> >> the
> >> >> days. Using non-application mode will not work due to screen readers
> >> >> as
> >> >> far
> >> >> as I can tell. But he wants use the application role to achieve this.
> >> >> These
> >> >> UI I am referring to have buttons for next and prior day. The
> meetings
> >> >> from
> >> >> memory are not in any UI element like a list.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas how this can be achieved without using application mode?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> How does the javascript keyboard event handle keyboard navigation
> when
> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> not on an element. Do you have to apply the keyboard event to the
> body
> >> of
> >> >> the html and track from there?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sean
> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>
> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:38:50 -0400
> Subject: [WebAIM] JOB: FT or PT PDF Remediation
> Posting this job announcement for a client.
>
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> They are looking for a Full or Part-Time PDF remediator.
>
>
>
> Although they will train the candidate for their particular methods and
> standards, candidate must have experience in accessible media, especially
> documents.
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>
>
> Job Requirements:
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> 1. Knowledge of WCAG 2.0 and PDF/UA-1 accessibility standards
> 2. Advanced skills in Acrobat
> 3. Knowledge of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and other programs
> 4. Knowledge of other remediation tools and techniques
> 5. Dedication to accessibility and people
> 6. Ability to stay on task
>
>
>
> This is a top-quality office with great people. Work either on-site
> (mid-Atlantic region) or telecommute from anywhere.
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> Send brief overview and resume to me at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:50:01 +0000
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
> > Anyway, my question was more... If the Excel spreadsheet is compliant
> before data is entered, it shouldn't really change
>
> It is possible in Excel to add color formatting, symbols, etc. to content
> within cells. So in theory someone adding content to the cell could create
> an accessibility issue. But given that much will be locked down then it is
> less likely that someone would break accessibility in other ways such as by
> adding textboxes, images, etc.. If nothing was added in an inaccessible
> manner there would be no need for remediation. So the answer is it
> depends on what the user actually does/can do.
>
> If you do plan to lock the cells and prevent selection of locked cells
> then you will likely need to use input messages to communicate the cell
> labels to users of screen readers because the users won't be able to read
> the cells outside the unlocked region.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Andrea Miralia
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 12:54 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
>
>
> What is "ICT?"
>
> Anyway, my question was more... If the Excel spreadsheet is compliant
> before data is entered, it shouldn't really change after the data is
> entered. The participants won't be adding formulas or merging cells (and in
> fact, we might lock the documents so that they can't), so ... it seems
> unnecessary to re-remediate them and make sure they're still compliant
> after the data has been entered.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Jonathan Avila
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
>
> While Section 508 is generally enforced through procurement it covers the
> use, maintenance, and development of ICT as well. Employees and members of
> the public have a civil right to access ICT in a comparable manner
> available to people without disabilities. There are 9 types of non-public
> documents that are covered by Section 508 to ensure that information needed
> by citizens of this country and employees with disabilities can have the
> same access as others.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> Level Access
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Andrea Miralia
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 12:07 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
>
>
> One thing I am wondering is why, in the past, other contractors have
> remediated the Excel spreadsheets both before *and after* the individual
> companies have filled them out. This seems unnecessary to me, as again, the
> spreadsheets are not being published anywhere; they're just being used to
> manage information like company name and address and membership numbers.
>
> Anyone know why both the blank spreadsheets and the filled-in spreadsheets
> would have to be compliant? Seems excessive.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 2:32 AM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
>
> This is interesting. As the section 508 is about procurement. Thus Excel
> needs to be accessible. But does spreadsheets from a third-party need to be?
> If you are selling them a service maybe? This is a legal question in deed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Andrea Miralia
> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2018 10:59 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] When is 508 required? :)
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm wondering about a potential request that may be coming my way. A
> government client wants to make sure a few thousand Excel documents are 508
> compliant, but these documents will be exchanged privately between the
> companies and the government. They won't be publicly available, and there
> aren't any employees accessing these files who need them to be 508
> compliant. One of my colleagues said they need to be compliant because "you
> never know" who might be working on the documents in the future. But what
> is the law, really? I am looking, of course, but I figured I'd ask all of
> you, too.
>
>
>
>
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
>
>
>
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> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:13:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] PDF with multiple References to same Note
> I would do #2. Then document this issue in your justification for item i6
> in the checklist.
>
> --
> Ryan E. Benson
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions on the best practice for the following case?
> >
> > I have a 2 page PDF where there are multiple references in multiple
> > paragraphs to the same footnote. Visually all the footnotes are collected
> > at the end of the document. The references are on both pages of the
> > document.
> >
> > The relevant standard for accessibility is the new HHS standard, but I
> > cannot place the Note tag after the Reference tags in the reading order
> --
> > and I cannot place each after the paragraphs in which the Reference tag
> > occurs since there are multiple such Reference tags for the same Note
> tag!
> >
> > From https://www.hhs.gov/web/section-508/making-files-
> > accessible/pdf-required/index.html -- "Move the footnote text in the tag
> > structure to either directly after the reference number, or directly
> after
> > the paragraph that contains the reference number."
> >
> > I have no access to the original InDesign document, and I cannot edit the
> > PDF (e.g. by creating multiple instances of the same footnotes) without
> > destroying its appearance.
> >
> > What is the least annoying way to handle this for screen reader users?
> >
> > (1) Keep it the way it is.
> > (2) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the first
> > reference to it.
> > (3) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the paragraph
> > containing the first reference to it.
> > (4) Something else?
> >
> > Thanks for suggestions!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:14:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible project manager
> What if a person has a Twitter aversion?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohith BP
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:02 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible project manager
>
> Hi,
>
> Atlassian has a specific twitter handle for the accessibility issues
> and they were helpful couple of years ago when I approached them.
> You can contact at: (@atlassianaccess)
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mohith B. P.
>
> On 6/21/18, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Personally I use Google Sheets. I have a template I use for each project
> > plan, but for larger teams, I don't know if this is an option.
> > I've never used anything with a good UX to do project management other
> > than
> > spreadsheets and text files.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:45 AM Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone used a Project Manager that works with a screen reader? We
> >> tried Jira, however, Atlassian has never been good at fixing
> >> Accessibility
> >> issues and I have little hope that they will fix Jira.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards: Don Mauck
> >>
> >> Accessibility Evangelist Oracle Corporate Architecture
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
>
> > > > >