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From: Detlev Fischer
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2019 10:39AM
Subject: A11y testing with Android - turn off TalkBack "Enhanced focus"?
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A question to those testing the accessibility of stuff (in my case
native apps) under Android: When you test, do you turn off the TalkBack
setting "Enhanced focus" (I believe this is on by default)? When it is
turned on and you navigate back using in-app back buttons or the Android
device back button, focus returns to where it was on the prior view.

For meaningful TalkBack testing, It seems reasonable to have this
setting activated because it is default and secondly it seems mostly
beneficial for users (focus lands at the start of the view othwerwise).
I am just concerned that having it on may mask  some app focus issues or
distort results in some other way. Any thoughts?

Detlev

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From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2019 11:39AM
Subject: Re: A11y testing with Android - turn off TalkBack "Enhanced focus"?
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We generally do WCAG audits and expert reviews with the default settings of operating systems, browsers and assistive technologies unless there is evidence that users typically change them or they are essential (such as changing the keyboard accessibility settings in Safari on macOS).

During user testing, we allow the participants to make any configuration changes they want, but they almost never do. Even when they do, the changes mostly affect the accessibility of the operating system or desktop applications.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd


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Subject: [WebAIM] A11y testing with Android - turn off TalkBack "Enhanced focus"?

A question to those testing the accessibility of stuff (in my case native apps) under Android: When you test, do you turn off the TalkBack setting "Enhanced focus" (I believe this is on by default)? When it is turned on and you navigate back using in-app back buttons or the Android device back button, focus returns to where it was on the prior view.

For meaningful TalkBack testing, It seems reasonable to have this setting activated because it is default and secondly it seems mostly beneficial for users (focus lands at the start of the view othwerwise).
I am just concerned that having it on may mask  some app focus issues or distort results in some other way. Any thoughts?

Detlev

--
Detlev Fischer
Testkreis
Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg

Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45

http://www.testkreis.de
Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites


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From: Mohith BP
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2019 10:23PM
Subject: Re: A11y testing with Android - turn off TalkBack "Enhanced focus"?
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This setting is on by default hence it is not turned off usually.

On 1/4/19, Steve Green < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> We generally do WCAG audits and expert reviews with the default settings of
> operating systems, browsers and assistive technologies unless there is
> evidence that users typically change them or they are essential (such as
> changing the keyboard accessibility settings in Safari on macOS).
>
> During user testing, we allow the participants to make any configuration
> changes they want, but they almost never do. Even when they do, the changes
> mostly affect the accessibility of the operating system or desktop
> applications.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Detlev Fischer
> Sent: 03 January 2019 17:39
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] A11y testing with Android - turn off TalkBack "Enhanced
> focus"?
>
> A question to those testing the accessibility of stuff (in my case native
> apps) under Android: When you test, do you turn off the TalkBack setting
> "Enhanced focus" (I believe this is on by default)? When it is turned on and
> you navigate back using in-app back buttons or the Android device back
> button, focus returns to where it was on the prior view.
>
> For meaningful TalkBack testing, It seems reasonable to have this setting
> activated because it is default and secondly it seems mostly beneficial for
> users (focus lands at the start of the view othwerwise).
> I am just concerned that having it on may mask  some app focus issues or
> distort results in some other way. Any thoughts?
>
> Detlev
>
> --
> Detlev Fischer
> Testkreis
> Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg
>
> Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45
>
> http://www.testkreis.de
> Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
>
>
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