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From: Catherine Roy
Date: Wed, Sep 18 2019 9:13PM
Subject: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

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Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 8:18AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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Hello Catherine,

We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found
significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate
accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the
entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough
for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee
training.

Regards,

Pratik


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Catherine Roy
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Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

--
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Catherine Roy
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 8:31AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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Thank you so much Pratik, this is exactly the kind of feedback I'm looking for. My initial testing of the platform gave me concerns. Unfortunately, it would seem that those concerns are founded.
Thanks again!
Catherine



--Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net






On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:










Hello Catherine,

We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found
significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate
accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the
entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough
for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee
training.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
Catherine Roy
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

--
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Catherine Roy
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 8:38AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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Hi again Pratik,
One follow-up question to this, if I may. Considering your vast knowledge in accessibility, what e-learning platforms would you recommend? Which ones support best accessibility? And if anyone else wants to chime in here, the more the merrier.
Thanks!
Catherine



--Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net






On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:










Hello Catherine,

We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found
significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate
accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the
entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough
for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee
training.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
Catherine Roy
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

--
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 8:48AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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We have tested lots of e-learning platforms, mostly for small organisations. The accessibility has ranged from terrible to appalling. I can't think of any that our clients fixed to the level that I could recommend them.

We have also evaluated some from large organisations, like Articulate, and they were every bit as bad if not worse.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform






Hi again Pratik,
One follow-up question to this, if I may. Considering your vast knowledge in accessibility, what e-learning platforms would you recommend? Which ones support best accessibility? And if anyone else wants to chime in here, the more the merrier.
Thanks!
Catherine



--Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net






On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:










Hello Catherine,

We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee training.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
Catherine Roy
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

--
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 11:51AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos eLearning platform
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I recommend D2L aka Desire 2 Learn as they have a long commitment to
accessibility. I belong to their monthly accessibility discussion group and
years ago when they were first moving into accessibility, did a day long
workshop on accessible UI. What impressed me was (and still does) is that
once I pointed out accessibility barriers, went for coffee and came back,
their developers had most of them fixed for the next release. They are
always open to accessibility suggestions and often have accessibility
sessions at their annual user conference.

Unfortunately my academic institution is moving from D2L to Canvas and I'm a
bit nervous about it but hear that Canvas does have an accessibility group
and is interested in improving accessibility.

Another LMS that is working on accessibility and has the ALLY add-in to help
students access inaccessible content, is Blackboard.

These are the top three LMS's and I would rank D2L first with Canvas and
Blackboard tied for second. D2L includes accessibility for those of us
instructors with disabilities as well as students with disabilities while
most other LMS are still focused on students with disabilities which leaves
those of us who are teaching out of the accessibility loop.

I'm anxious to see how accessible the teacher/instructor UI is with Canvas.

BGTW, Canvas Bridge for Teams which is a by product LMS for business is
horrible in terms of accessibility for everyone.

Cheers, Karen

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Catherine Roy
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:38 AM
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Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform






Hi again Pratik,
One follow-up question to this, if I may. Considering your vast knowledge in
accessibility, what e-learning platforms would you recommend? Which ones
support best accessibility? And if anyone else wants to chime in here, the
more the merrier.
Thanks!
Catherine



--Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net






On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:










Hello Catherine,

We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found
significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate
accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the
entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough
for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee
training.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
Catherine Roy
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?

https://www.dokeos.com

Thanks,

Catherine

--
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

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From: Catherine Roy
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 7:44PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
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Hi Steve,

I hear you. What about aTutor[1] though? Has anyone stepped up to take
over[2] from Greg Gay? Last update was over a year ago.

Best,

Catherine

[1] (https://atutor.github.io/)

[2] https://atutor.github.io/2017/12/12/second-post.html


On 2019-09-19 10:48 a.m., Steve Green wrote:
> We have tested lots of e-learning platforms, mostly for small organisations. The accessibility has ranged from terrible to appalling. I can't think of any that our clients fixed to the level that I could recommend them.
>
> We have also evaluated some from large organisations, like Articulate, and they were every bit as bad if not worse.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Catherine Roy
> Sent: 19 September 2019 15:38
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >; 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
>
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>
>
>
>
> Hi again Pratik,
> One follow-up question to this, if I may. Considering your vast knowledge in accessibility, what e-learning platforms would you recommend? Which ones support best accessibility? And if anyone else wants to chime in here, the more the merrier.
> Thanks!
> Catherine
>
>
>
> --Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Catherine,
>
> We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee training.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
> Catherine Roy
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?
>
> https://www.dokeos.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Catherine
>
> --
> Catherine Roy
> http://www.catherine-roy.net
>
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > --
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

From: Catherine Roy
Date: Thu, Sep 19 2019 7:47PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of dokeos eLearning platform
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Thank you very much for all this info, Karen. Very useful and much
appreciated.

Best,

Catherine


On 2019-09-19 1:51 p.m., Karlen Communications wrote:
> I recommend D2L aka Desire 2 Learn as they have a long commitment to
> accessibility. I belong to their monthly accessibility discussion group and
> years ago when they were first moving into accessibility, did a day long
> workshop on accessible UI. What impressed me was (and still does) is that
> once I pointed out accessibility barriers, went for coffee and came back,
> their developers had most of them fixed for the next release. They are
> always open to accessibility suggestions and often have accessibility
> sessions at their annual user conference.
>
> Unfortunately my academic institution is moving from D2L to Canvas and I'm a
> bit nervous about it but hear that Canvas does have an accessibility group
> and is interested in improving accessibility.
>
> Another LMS that is working on accessibility and has the ALLY add-in to help
> students access inaccessible content, is Blackboard.
>
> These are the top three LMS's and I would rank D2L first with Canvas and
> Blackboard tied for second. D2L includes accessibility for those of us
> instructors with disabilities as well as students with disabilities while
> most other LMS are still focused on students with disabilities which leaves
> those of us who are teaching out of the accessibility loop.
>
> I'm anxious to see how accessible the teacher/instructor UI is with Canvas.
>
> BGTW, Canvas Bridge for Teams which is a by product LMS for business is
> horrible in terms of accessibility for everyone.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Catherine Roy
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:38 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >; 'WebAIM
> Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi again Pratik,
> One follow-up question to this, if I may. Considering your vast knowledge in
> accessibility, what e-learning platforms would you recommend? Which ones
> support best accessibility? And if anyone else wants to chime in here, the
> more the merrier.
> Thanks!
> Catherine
>
>
>
> --Catherine Roywww.catherine-roy.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:21 AM -0400, "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Catherine,
>
> We evaluated this platform for a client a few months ago. We found
> significant concerns regarding the platform and its ability to generate
> accessible content including videos with captioning. While I can't share the
> entire set of results, I can tell you that the summary was conclusive enough
> for us to recommend that our client not use this platform for employee
> training.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of
> Catherine Roy
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:14 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility of dokeos elearning platform
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the elearning platform
> dokeos? Does it offer any accessibility?
>
> https://www.dokeos.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Catherine
>
> --
> Catherine Roy
> http://www.catherine-roy.net
>
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
>
>
>
>
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > --
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net