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From: Alan Zaitchik
Date: Mon, Jul 13 2020 4:01PM
Subject: JAWS, aria-live and aria-atomic
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Has anyone seen the following? I have a Span that contains an input field and an adjacent inner span. The inner span contains a percent sign. The outer span has aria-atomic=true and aria-live=polite. In NVDA and Voiceover all changes to the input field are announced (politely) along with the percentage sign. Jaws 2020 ignores the percentage sign despite the aria-atomic. I'm using Chrome for this test. I don't care about IE or Edge.
Is this a known bug?
Thx.

From: Weston Thayer
Date: Mon, Jul 13 2020 6:12PM
Subject: Re: JAWS, aria-live and aria-atomic
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Yes, I believe this is
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id67257, which should
be fixed in Chrome 84.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>
> Has anyone seen the following? I have a Span that contains an input field
> and an adjacent inner span. The inner span contains a percent sign. The
> outer span has aria-atomic=true and aria-live=polite. In NVDA and Voiceover
> all changes to the input field are announced (politely) along with the
> percentage sign. Jaws 2020 ignores the percentage sign despite the
> aria-atomic. I'm using Chrome for this test. I don't care about IE or Edge.
> Is this a known bug?
> Thx.
> > > > >

From: Vaibhav Saraf
Date: Tue, Jul 14 2020 12:56AM
Subject: Re: JAWS, aria-live and aria-atomic
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Sorry for the foolish question. I am new to ARIA and not know much as of
now. What little I understand is that if area=atomic is set to true in the
parent span then the % in the inner span should also be announced, which is
currently ignored by JAWS. Is that right?

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 05:42, Weston Thayer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Yes, I believe this is
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id67257, which
> should
> be fixed in Chrome 84.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Has anyone seen the following? I have a Span that contains an input field
> > and an adjacent inner span. The inner span contains a percent sign. The
> > outer span has aria-atomic=true and aria-live=polite. In NVDA and
> Voiceover
> > all changes to the input field are announced (politely) along with the
> > percentage sign. Jaws 2020 ignores the percentage sign despite the
> > aria-atomic. I'm using Chrome for this test. I don't care about IE or
> Edge.
> > Is this a known bug?
> > Thx.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Weston Thayer
Date: Tue, Jul 14 2020 8:42AM
Subject: Re: JAWS, aria-live and aria-atomic
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Correct.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:56 PM Vaibhav Saraf < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Sorry for the foolish question. I am new to ARIA and not know much as of
> now. What little I understand is that if area=atomic is set to true in the
> parent span then the % in the inner span should also be announced, which is
> currently ignored by JAWS. Is that right?
>
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 05:42, Weston Thayer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I believe this is
> > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id67257, which
> > should
> > be fixed in Chrome 84.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen the following? I have a Span that contains an input
> field
> > > and an adjacent inner span. The inner span contains a percent sign. The
> > > outer span has aria-atomic=true and aria-live=polite. In NVDA and
> > Voiceover
> > > all changes to the input field are announced (politely) along with the
> > > percentage sign. Jaws 2020 ignores the percentage sign despite the
> > > aria-atomic. I'm using Chrome for this test. I don't care about IE or
> > Edge.
> > > Is this a known bug?
> > > Thx.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Mallory
Date: Thu, Jul 16 2020 10:30AM
Subject: Re: JAWS, aria-live and aria-atomic
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Hi,
that ticket is about the opposite problem: that everything is announced, instead of the desired behaviour of new content only.

If you want to determine if the issue is with JAWS, even though you don't care about Firefox, see what JAWS does there. If it also won't announce the % there (and if it normally announces %s, which I think it does), it's better to file a bug at the FreedomScientific github https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues
cheers,
_mallory

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Weston Thayer wrote:
> Correct.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:56 PM Vaibhav Saraf < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the foolish question. I am new to ARIA and not know much as of
> > now. What little I understand is that if area=atomic is set to true in the
> > parent span then the % in the inner span should also be announced, which is
> > currently ignored by JAWS. Is that right?
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 05:42, Weston Thayer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I believe this is
> > > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id67257, which
> > > should
> > > be fixed in Chrome 84.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone seen the following? I have a Span that contains an input
> > field
> > > > and an adjacent inner span. The inner span contains a percent sign. The
> > > > outer span has aria-atomic=true and aria-live=polite. In NVDA and
> > > Voiceover
> > > > all changes to the input field are announced (politely) along with the
> > > > percentage sign. Jaws 2020 ignores the percentage sign despite the
> > > > aria-atomic. I'm using Chrome for this test. I don't care about IE or
> > > Edge.
> > > > Is this a known bug?
> > > > Thx.
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