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Re: Hiding Legends

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From: Dean Hamack
Date: Oct 16, 2008 11:00AM

On 10/16/08 12:30 AM, "Korpela Jukka" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Looks like styling of forms in CSS. Nothing specifically
> accessibility-related, and I didn't find anything about hiding legends. I
> admit I did not read that carefully, since I think I know CSS pretty well
> (and I would first consult my own book on CSS if I needed to recollect
> things...).

Obviously you didn't read it very carefully since the very first heading in
the article is: "Accessible Form Markup"

> That's nothing usual. It might be popular among some fraction of misguided
> accessibility enthusiasts.

A fraction of misguided enthusiasts? That article was written by the very
same people who host this list! And the reason that technique was suggested
instead of the other techniques is that it's the only one that works across
all screenreaders.

> Of course it's "not accessible", but that's because the very idea of
> hiding legends isn't.

Wow, you really don't bother to read anything before responding, do you?

I gave a perfectly valid example of why you would want to hide a legend from
a sighted person, but not a screenreader. Sorry, but you've lost all
credibility in this discussion.

> You probably mean that it hides legends too well, i.e. performs what you
> asked for instead of what you meant.

No, what I meant is that it hides the legends from screenreaders as well as
browsers.