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From: ShannonVanI
Date: Sep 21, 2009 11:45AM

John and Parker,

Thank you for your responses! Parker, I'll look closer at Bandwith. I think
I need to understand it more. John you are tapping into exactly what I'm
looking for. I've sent you an email.

I would like to add though, that you're correct, the Deaf community would
disagree with providing just text. This is why I'm really focusing on the
use of video and it being fast to download and fluid to watch. Albeit,
perhaps it can be more economical to use just text for certain things? Or if
the content is brief then perhaps a sentence or two of text and the use of
open captioning would then be considered acceptable from the Deaf community.


I am hearing imparied and so I can say that I am particular to avoid
educational situations that don't accomodate my need for text reference. On
that note, if I were Deaf, I would think I would be just as selective if an
educational situation did not accomodate my need for ASL.

Again, gentlemen, Thank you for your help.
Shannon VI




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> From: "Owens, Parker" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:58:21 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] The best method for creating Video online
> It looks to me they generated an actual video of a person signing with ASL
> for each paragraph. As far as I know, there is no way to generate ASL from
> text, if that is what you are asking. The syntax of ASL is significantly
> different, although I know it has been tried. As far as the speed of
> downloading and displaying video, that is more a bandwidth issue. If someone
> has a modem, it may take a long time to download no matter what you do.
>
> If you want to have an ASL lecture, and a text lecture, it might be wise to
> have the ASL lecture video be available for download. That way someone can
> download it first, then watch the video.
>
>
> Parker Owens
> AT /Web Accessibility
> Eastern Kentucky University
> (859) 622-2743
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ShannonVanI [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:17 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] The best method for creating Video online
>
> Hello Technical Genius ,
>
>
>
> Could I please ask your assistance? I am a student studying Instructional
> design. In short, I design *online* courses. I'm a huge supporter of
> Universal Instructional Design, but I'm hitting some road blocks on the
> "technology end" simply because I'm more of a writer than a Technical
> Genius
> (programmer). My greatest challenge at this point is making my courses ASL
> accessible. When I visit this site from the Canadian Hearing Society
> http://www.chs.ca/en/about-chs/about-chs.html
>
> I can access the ASL feature and up comes a gentleman who speaks the
> paragraph in ASL. It takes about 3 minutes for me to see him in full
> communication for one paragraph of writing. This is not good for a course.
> (I don't think it's good at all for that matter.) Yet, I can click on a
> YouTube video and see a video in seconds. Can you advise the best means of
> online technology use *that is asynchronous* (accessible whenever one
> chooses) that would allow a student to simply click on an ASL interface to
> access a person ASLing the text in my online course and get immediate
> results. Video seems like the best solution. But it can take forever to see
> or simply seconds. What's the catch? What is the best method/tool/tech for
> putting video online so that downloads are fast and not choppy?
>
>
>
> I *deeply appreciate* any assistance you can provide.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shannon VI
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "John E. Brandt" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:28:07 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] The best method for creating Video online
> Shannon,
>
> As you no doubt know, there are several sources of "guidelines" and
> "standards" for making digital content accessible to people with
> disabilities. Indeed, in several countries around the world, it is the law.
> But standards and guidelines are just that, and even if followed very
> carefully, don't necessarily make content accessible or fully accessible
> for
> all.
>
> Regarding the needs of people who are deaf and people with hearing
> impairments, there are two somewhat distinct mindsets. Many people who are
> deaf, particularly people who were born deaf, maintain that sign language
> (as in American Sign Language) is their primary language and that all
> spoken
> auditory content should be translated into sign language. Many members of
> the community of people with hearing impairments, particularly people whose
> hearing has become impaired later in life (this also includes some "late
> deafened individuals") prefer to have content captioned; that is, the
> auditory content be translated into written text that is displayed at the
> same time as the spoken content. The closed captioning on television is an
> example of this.
>
> As you have learned, trying to convert spoken auditory content into sign
> language creates some challenges for both synchronous and asynchronous
> teaching. The current standards and guidelines speak to the importance of
> synchronization and do not state a preferred method or translation, but the
> consensus has been that if you are needing to choose a method, the
> captioning approach is the one. But understand that many people in the Deaf
> community would disagree with this.
>
> Just to muddy this a bit more...the philosophy of accessibility surrounds
> the ideal of making content accessible to individuals as opposed to
> disabilities. If you were building a class where there were no people with
> disabilities "in the room" and they all learned the same way, you would
> (theoretically) not have to modify your content. But in a distance learning
> or asynchronous learning situation, you don't know who will be in the
> class.
> Add to this the reality that there are many types of disabilities
> (including
> multiple dialects of sign language), multiple learning styles and you now
> create an almost impossible scenario.
>
> So, my personal advice would be to open caption (not close caption) all
> spoken auditory content (audio and video clips) and also provide a complete
> written transcript for the content. Should you eventually have a student
> who
> needs conversion to ASL, the school can provide the translator for that
> student, at that time. That service, in concert with the transcriptions,
> should meet the need.
>
> BTW, some advice... if you are going to use unscripted audio/video content
> (recording a "live" session ,especially with multiple speakers), it would
> be
> valuable to have someone live signing the session and to make two video
> recordings, one of the speaker and one of the sign language translator. You
> can see an example of how we did this at a Maine CITE conference last year
>
> http://www.mainecite.org/index.php?option=com_content&;task=view&id=61&Itemid
> =43 .
>
> Contact me off list is you wish to discuss this further. I have some
> contacts who you may wish to speak to.
>
> ~j
>
> John E. Brandt
> Web Design, Development, Consultation
> Augusta, Maine USA
> www.jebswebs.com
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of ShannonVanI
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:17 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] The best method for creating Video online
>
> Hello Technical Genius ,
>
>
>
> Could I please ask your assistance? I am a student studying Instructional
> design. In short, I design *online* courses. I’m a huge supporter of
> Universal Instructional Design, but I’m hitting some road blocks on the
> “technology end” simply because I’m more of a writer than a Technical
> Genius
> (programmer). My greatest challenge at this point is making my courses ASL
> accessible. When I visit this site from the Canadian Hearing Society
> http://www.chs.ca/en/about-chs/about-chs.html
>
> I can access the ASL feature and up comes a gentleman who speaks the
> paragraph in ASL. It takes about 3 minutes for me to see him in full
> communication for one paragraph of writing. This is not good for a course.
> (I don't think it's good at all for that matter.) Yet, I can click on a
> YouTube video and see a video in seconds. Can you advise the best means of
> online technology use *that is asynchronous* (accessible whenever one
> chooses) that would allow a student to simply click on an ASL interface to
> access a person ASLing the text in my online course and get immediate
> results. Video seems like the best solution. But it can take forever to see
> or simply seconds. What’s the catch? What is the best method/tool/tech for
> putting video online so that downloads are fast and not choppy?
>
>
>
> I *deeply appreciate* any assistance you can provide.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shannon VI
>