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Re: Is this slider accessible to screenreader users?

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From: Geof Collis
Date: Dec 7, 2009 5:09PM

Hi Chuck

Kind of ironic that a list devoted to accessibility poses
accessibility barriers.

cheers

Geof


At 06:14 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
>I was just thinking the same. It could be quite time consuming If I listened
>to all the > signs that JAWS would read if I would let it.
>Chuck
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Geof Collis" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Is this slider accessible to screenreader users?
>
>
> > Perhaps someone could direct their energies on making this email list
> > more accessible for us screen reader users, I'm finding I've got to
> > do a lotof searching just to find some of your answers amongst all
> > the greater signs.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Geof
> >
> > At 12:39 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
> >>Al Sparber wrote:
> >> > From: "Christian Heilmann" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Keith Parks wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Al Sparber wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi Randi,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Try this page and let me know if you are able to read all of the
> >> >>>> content:
> >> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/horizontal-glider/accessibility/base.htm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> The "Poems" tab goes to Poems, but the "Novels" tab brings you to
> >> >>> "Movies", and the "Movies" tab goes to nowhere, in Safari at least.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But at least it *is* keyboard navigable.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >> To a degree. It is tab-able but not really usable with a keyboard. The
> >> >> cursor keys is what makes it a proper tab control.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we want to use ARIA and we want to build interfaces that are the
> >> >> same
> >> >> as rich client interfaces we also have to get away from the idea of
> >> >> tabbing as the way to access data on the web. Todd Kloots did some
> >> >> amazing research work in this area:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://ericmiraglia.com/blog/?p=132
> >> >>
> >> >> The roaming tabindex for example makes sure you can access a massive
> >> >> menu without tabbing 200 times:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#focus_tabindex
> >> >> http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2009/02/23/managing-focus/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To be honest, we're not completely sold on ARIA at this point in
> >> time. It's
> >> > interesting to view as a future solution. Our accessibility
> >> testing group is
> >> > small, but comprised of people who have real disabilities and we tend
> >> > to
> >> > keep things as simple as possible. While our results tend to
> >> sometimes be at
> >> > odds with specifications authors, they do seem to work well for actual
> >> > users. But then again we are not sold on AJAX either. If we were, we
> >> > would
> >> > likely be far more compelled to embrace ARIA and the like.
> >> >
> >> > Our "carousel" was just released so we are still fleshing out potential
> >> > accessibility updates. Hopefully, any tweaks we make can be as simple
> >> > as
> >> > possible :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>Great. We throw all this information above out for free and write the
> >>explanations for exactly that use case. There is not much sense in 40
> >>people all doing the same research and arguing results. But then again
> >>this is the impression I get of the accessibility world as a whole as
> >>otherwise we'd have much more open source products.
> >>
> >>