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From: John Foliot
Date: Nov 5, 2010 9:57AM

Exactly.

JF



> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:webaim-forum-
> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Ted
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:53 AM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accesskey
>
> Isn't the problem with access keys that there are always going to be
> clashes. Alt + 0, for example, is often used to jump to an
> accessibility
> page. But what if I'm in a form and I want to type a en-dash (Alt +
> 0150) or
> and em-dash (Alt + 0151) or an "é" (Alt + 0233) and so on?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denis Boudreau [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: 05 November 2010 14:52
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accesskey
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> On 2010-11-05, at 9:35 AM, Birkir Rúnar Gunnarsson wrote:
>
> > Hey gentlemen
> >
> > What is the reasoning behind providing an AccessKey for search?
>
> The reasoning behind providing an accesskey for search is pretty much
> summed
> up as a quick shortcut to get focus on that field. Nothing more.
>
> It's not necessarily intended for screen readers users so much (who
> could
> jump to the next form easily), but more for keyboard users (who would
> have
> to tab their way through the interface).
>
>
>
> > Also, keep in mind an AccessKey could cause problems for the screen
> > reader user if it clashes with a screen reader specific function key,
> > though I have never had an issue with this personally.
>
> Yes, conflicting keys should always be a concern, which is why the
> community
> kinda determined those keys as the "safer ones", though we can never
> know
> for sure.
>
>
> > I think well thought out and sparsely used AccessKeys that make sense
> > in the context and are placed on web sites that users are likely to
> > frequent (such as email, work web sites, libraries perhaps etc) are
> an
> > accessibility improvement, but in general I would recommend making
> > maximum use of lists, headings and tables for quick page navigation
> > and layout.
>
> Couldn't agree more.
>
> But it doesn't mean that in certain contexts, all these options can't
> work
> together to provide a better user experience.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> --
> Denis Boudreau
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks
> > -Birkir
> >
> >
> > On 11/5/10, Denis Boudreau < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >> Hi Bruna,
> >>
> >> We've asked ourselves the same question as we were developing the
> >> accessibility standards up north in Quebec[1]. Accesskey have always
> >> been a matter of religion: people are usually either for or against
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Given the discoverability issues related to accesskeys and the fact
> >> that an organization just cannot expect its users to learn/remember
> >> the special keys reserved on every website they visit, we decided
> >> that accesskeys would not be allowed on public websites at all.
> >>
> >> However, on intranets or applications (where people were expected to
> >> use them on a regular, if not daily basis), then accesskeys can
> >> certainly prove useful because users might be tempted to learn and
> >> remember them in order to improve their efficiency.
> >>
> >> Same logic went for multimedia players, because we expect to offer a
> >> standardized player for every government agency or organization.
> >> Relying on the same player and making sure it uses control keys can
> >> and actually proves, to be useful.
> >>
> >> We recommended using the following, which have always been
> >> consensually
> >> approved:
> >>
> >> 1 = Homepage
> >> 3 = Site map
> >> 4 = Search
> >> 9 = Contact Us
> >> 0 = Accessibility
> >> s = Skip link
> >>
> >> No recommendations were provided as of yet regarding a multimedia
> >> player.
> >>
> >> Hoping this helps.
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.msg.gouv.qc.ca/normalisation/standards/accessibilite/
> >> --
> >> Denis Boudreau
> >> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2010-11-05, at 8:52 AM, Bruna Poletto Salton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I always read all the messages from this list, but this is the
> first
> >>> time I'm actually asking something.
> >>>
> >>> I'm Brazilian and I'm working on the brazilian government
> >>> accessibility guidelines. We are not really sure if we should
> >>> recommend the use of accesskey in the brazilian government
> websites.
> >>> Do people really use the given shortcuts? Do they really work well?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bruna Poletto Salton
> >>> Projeto Acessibilidade Virtual da RENAPI | Núcleo Bento Gonçalves
> >>> (Virtual Accessibility Project)
> www.bento.ifrs.edu.br/acessibilidade
> >>> (55) (54) 3455 3219
> >>>