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Re: 1.3.2 meaningful sequence


From: Steve Green
Date: Jan 27, 2011 10:27AM

I am sure we tested exactly this construction with a screen reader user some
years ago, and that they coped ok. The WCAG say that the content has to be
understandable, not that it has to be understandable the first time it is
read in a linearised manner. I'm not sure there is a better way to construct
this type of content than what you already have.

Your website is very similar to an FTP client insofar as they also have two
lists of items and two buttons to move them from one side to the other.
Plenty of screen reader users manage to use this functionality with no

Steve Green
Test Partners Ltd

-----Original Message-----
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of adam solomon
Sent: 27 January 2011 15:06
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] 1.3.2 meaningful sequence

An example:
Html consists of two lists of names with corresponding checkboxes - the
first list consists of potential people who can be added to the second list.
The second list are the people who have already been added. The two lists
come one after another in the DOM, yet they are visually presented
side-by-side by css float. In between the two lists, both in the DOM and
visually are two buttons - one button adds an entry from the first list to
the second list, while the other button causes an entry already added to the
second list to be removed from it and placed back in the first list. I was
concerned about the fact that the remove button, which would need to be
clicked after choosing from the second list, comes before that list in the
DOM. In order to clarify things, we added a short explanation of how the
whole thing works. Technically, the DOM sequence matches the visual
sequence, yet visually it is easier to pick up on the fact that the buttons
"drag" names from one list to the other. The client is unwilling to change
the position of the buttons. Are we in violation of WCAG here, specifically
or any other criterion> more importantly, does a screen reader user stand a
reasonable chance to understand how to operate the lists?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

adam solomon
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