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Re: "Skip to content" links, vissibility and keyboard users without screen readers, to hide or not to hide?

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From: Vincent Young
Date: Dec 19, 2011 5:42PM

Great article. Used the same technique for a module on our site. Uploaded
so you can see the technique in action.

http://webhipster.com/testing/accessibility/event-info/

Enjoy.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton < <EMAIL REMOVED> >wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I thought some on this list might find this Twitter post of interest:
>
> Via:
> @terrillthompson Skip nav links don't actually work well for
> non-mousers. Blog & JQuery solution @ http://t.co/4MLaLQBT
>
>
> Jennifer
> At 03:57 PM 12/19/2011, you wrote:
> >Hi Birkir,
> >
> >Thanks for your kind observations about the webcourse - I should update
> it;
> >I am tempted to just change the dates! What I want to do us update it with
> >references to WCAG 20.
> >
> >First of all - a visible skip link is great and the best thing to do - but
> >an alternative is to make it visible on focus because it is primarily an
> >accommodation for sighted non-mouse users. As you said keyboard navigation
> >of headings (and landmarks) is not supported except for Opera (and I was
> >disappointed that they turned off that feature and have hidden a switch to
> >turn it back on). If you are using a head mouse you don't need the skip
> >link.
> >
> >I didn't consider keyboard alternatives and how that would work. I would
> be
> >interested to hear from someone who knows that technology better than I.
> >
> >And no, I don't believe it, but the skip link bug in IE has not been
> >corrected in IE 9 ...ARGGGHHH.
> >
> >Jim
> >http://jimthatcher.com
> >512-306-0931
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
> >Gunnarsson
> >Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:18 PM
> >To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >Subject: [WebAIM] "Skip to content" links, vissibility and keyboard users
> >without screen readers, to hide or not to hide?
> >
> >Yea wise people.
> >
> >I am glancing through the excellent Jim Thatcher course (though it hasnot
> >been updated in 5 years, vast majority of it is still relevant,
> >fortunately).
> >One thing it highlights, and ihave seen discussed here as well, is use of
> >skip navigation links.
> >The specific page i am reading is
> >http://www.jimthatcher.com/webcourse4.htm
> >
> >I understand the discussion of position a navigation link off-screen, and
> it
> >only receiving focus when the tab key is used. But later on, the page seem
> >to indicate that vissible skip to content links should be provided for
> those
> >using a headmouse or other keyboard simulation methods to navigate a
> >webpage. Unfortunately browsers other than Opera, do not allow navigating
> by
> >headings or other html elements.
> >So, what is the right thing to recommend here:
> >a. For skip links to be invissible, a keyboard simulation users will have
> to
> >tab through each and every link on the page, so the first time he/she uses
> >the tab key the otherwise invissible link will become vissible or b. To
> have
> >a vissible "skip to content" link at the top of the page, to make
> navigation
> >of the pge easier for any keyboard users?
> >
> >The page also discusses IE6 and IE7 bugs that cause samepage links not to
> >work, unless they are configured specifically. (see page for exact
> >description, as it is somewhat lengthy, discussion is towards the end of
> the
> >page).
> >Hs this issue been fixed in IE8/IE9? If someone knows off the top of their
> >head it'd be good to know. If not, I'll simply construct a test case
> myself
> >to find out.
> >Thanks very much
> >-Birkir
> >