WebAIM - Web Accessibility In Mind

E-mail List Archives

Re: question about audio descriptions of video


From: ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Dec 27, 2011 8:27AM

As a screen reader user I can listen to the screen reader giving a textual
description much faster than someone giving a verbal description. Since my
time is valuable and of course is money i prefer JAWs reading the
----- Original Message -----
From: "John E Brandt" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] question about audio descriptions of video

> IMHO...
> You have two groups of individuals with disabilities that might find the
> video inaccessible.
> For folks with low vision who use screen readers, I think you might have a
> "pretty picture" conundrum.
> If you asked a bunch of screen reader users their opinion on what should
> be
> verbally "described" it would come to some folks wanting a very detailed
> description of everything the non-screen reader user "sees." You will also
> hear the opinion of something like, "I don't care, I am not spending 15
> minutes listening to someone's description of a group of athletes doing
> tricks and dancing with basketballs as a promotion to come support the
> college team." And you will find some folks squarely in the middle. You
> will
> not be able to make everyone happy with your verbal description.
> More about the "the pretty picture conundrum" is in one of my blogs
> http://jebswebs.net/blog/2010/12/writing-alt-descriptions/ - but the
> essence is shoot for middle ground.
> For folks in the Deaf community who need synchronized captioning to better
> understand spoken content on videos, they would probably be fine with the
> video as is, with maybe the music mark at the beginning as Andrew
> suggests.
> Now, regarding your State policy issue, it appears that they are referring
> to folks from the low vision/blind camp, hence the reference to the
> "pretty
> picture" issue. The message conveyed in the video - I think everyone would
> agree - is that you have a talented groups of young women athletes at your
> university and you encourage folks to support the women's basketball team.
> You might simply add to the current description something like "...in this
> video see our talented women athletes perform amazing ball handling
> activities..."
> ~j
> John E. Brandt
> www.jebswebs.com
> 207-622-7937
> Augusta, Maine, USA
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jeremy Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: webaim-forum
> Subject: [WebAIM] question about audio descriptions of video
> Good afternoon,
> We had a question come up at our institution today about a specific video
> clip that our Athletics department posted, and determining how to ensure
> the
> video is accessible. This video can currently be located at:
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=534338130888
> This particular video has no essential audio (the only audio is background
> music that is non-essential) but shows some basketball players performing
> some dribbling and passing techniques. Since there is no essential audio,
> the video would not need to be captioned according to our state's
> accessibility requirements. However, our requirements have the following
> statement:
> "Provide audio descriptions for all multimedia that contains essential
> visual information when it is provided to the public and/or required to be
> viewed by employees."
> Guidelines:
> http://www.dhs.state.il.us/IITAA/IITAAWebImplementationGuidelines.html
> Based on this statement, it would appear that audio descriptions that
> describe what the players are doing would be legally required according to
> our guidelines. Or is this a case of determining whether the visual
> information is essential? (That begs the question - can there be a video
> with neither essential audio OR video?)
> Any general thoughts on this? Particularly interested to hear from anyone
> that may be in Illinois following the Illinois Information Technology
> Accessibility Act (IITAA)
> Best,
> Jeremy Merritt
> Coordinator - Web Services
> University Technology
> Western Illinois University
> 88 Horrabin Hall
> Phone: (309) 298-1287