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Re: Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity andPunctuationsettings.

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From: Léonie Watson
Date: Jul 27, 2012 12:25PM


Bim Egan wrote:
"Generally I think that the use of commas is more reliable than brackets, as
far as I can tell, all screen readers provide a slight pause when
encountering commas, but there's no such pause or inflection when brackets
are encountered. The inflection differs between screen readers, but a pause
is always available."

Interestingly, this brings the different TTS into the equation too. Most
Windows screen readers can be used with at least two different TTS these
days, and it's usually the TTS that defines this level of behaviour.

Léonie.

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and
Punctuationsettings.

Hi John,

My personal settings for JFW are Advanced verbocity and "some" punctuation.
That's me as a user. When I'm evalulating, I bring down the verbocity to
Beginner, but leave the punctuation as "some", on the grounds that hearing
brackets may be a distraction. When writing code I obviously crank up the
punctuation to "all".

Generally I think that the use of commas is more reliable than brackets, as
far as I can tell, all screen readers provide a slight pause when
encountering commas, but there's no such pause or inflection when brackets
are encountered. The inflection differs between screen readers, but a pause
is always available.

For instance the familiar sentence:
"Resources are for information purposes only, no endorsement implied."
Read by JAWS the text "no endorsement implied." sounds like an aside, the
(pitch is lower).
Read by NVDA there's no change in pitch but there is a pause.

Colons are also honoured by screen readers; providing a pause of similar
length to the period, but with a different pitch change than that used for
a new sentence.

HTH,

Bim

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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:05 PM
Subject: [WebAIM] Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and
Punctuationsettings.


Hi All,

Just doing a quick poll to try and figure out a minor question. What I am
attempting to determine is what are your settings? Verbosity: Low, Medium or
Beginner? Then Punctuation: All, Most, Some or None?

The question being considered is whether or not to include (parenthesis) in
off-screen text: is there a value to doing so, or should I not bother?

Data and comments most appreciated.

JF
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John Foliot
Web Accessibility Specialist
Co-Chair, W3C HTML5 Accessibility Task Force (Media) Co-founder, Open Web
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