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Re: Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and Punctuationsettings.

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From: Léonie Watson
Date: Jul 27, 2012 12:25PM


John Foliot wrote:
"Just doing a quick poll to try and figure out a minor question. What I am
attempting to determine is what are your settings? Verbosity: Low, Medium or
Beginner? Then Punctuation: All, Most, Some or None?"

I mentioned on Twitter that I set Jaws to advanced verbosity by default
(with some slight modification), and punctuation to none. It may not have a
bearing in this case, but I also use Jaws' application specific settings to
change its default behaviour. In my text editor I have punctuation set to
most for example.

"The question being considered is whether or not to include (parenthesis) in
off-screen text: is there a value to doing so, or should I not bother?"

My general rule of thumb is to use punctuation in whichever way is
grammatically correct. Were you thinking that parentheses could be used to
programmatically indicate that text was offscreen?

Léonie.


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and Punctuation
settings.

This is a bit of a long response, but this is what I got back from Rich
Caloggero when I asked a similar question last year (I was specifically
asking about punctuation announcement when reading source code):

I find Jaws to be pretty smart about punctuation. I set it to “most” which
tends to read most punctuation in code. It skips punctuation that is at the
end of a word token (blank separated runs of nonblank symbols). So "foo.
bar will drop the dot from the utterance, while foo.bar will speak “foo dot
bar”. The effect of this is that it tends to read English text just fine,
and will read most text and code mixtures just fine without needing to
switch punctuationreading modes.

Jaws reads parens, brackets, and braces as left/right paren / bracket /
brace, respectively.
It reads <expression> as “less expression greater”.

No single keys to change punctuation on the fly; easy enough to change via
verbosity settings. I think nvda might be able to change with one keystroke,
but not sure about that. I also think nvda has similar pronounciation rules
whenpunctuation is set to most.


On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM, John Foliot < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just doing a quick poll to try and figure out a minor question. What
> I am attempting to determine is what are your settings? Verbosity:
> Low, Medium or Beginner? Then Punctuation: All, Most, Some or None?
>
> The question being considered is whether or not to include
> (parenthesis) in off-screen text: is there a value to doing so, or should
I not bother?
>
> Data and comments most appreciated.
>
> JF
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