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Re: spry widgets and accessibility?

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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Jul 31, 2012 5:44PM


Scott said:
> We have active discussions and contributions with the
> community at large.
Scott, can you post a link to where the discussions are happening?
Folks at work are slowly starting to get into jQuery, I'd either would
like a gather best practices, or point them in direction when I can't
assist.

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Ryan E. Benson


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Scott González
< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> jQuery UI :-)
>
> It really depends on which widgets you need. This is my understanding of
> the landscape right now:
>
> jQuery UI: Somewhat accessible, constantly improving, dedicated to full
> ARIA support. We have active discussions and contributions with the
> community at large. We work with Fluid, Paciello Group, Mozilla, and
> others. Source: I am the project lead. Note: If there are widgets that we
> don't implement, you can also check out Wijmo (http://wijmo.com) which
> builds on top of jQuery UI.
>
> Dojo: Should be fully accessible, but the majority of the work was done by
> "outsiders" under a grant and is not being maintained as actively now that
> the responsibility is fully on the Dojo team. Source: hearsay, but from
> reliable sources. If Becky Gibson is on this list, she can probably provide
> accurate information. Perhaps David Bolter or someone else involved in the
> original ARIA push for Dojo can chime in as well.
>
> YUI: I believe Yahoo's stance is that ARIA should not be implemented by
> default because of the behavior changes from the traditional web. I'm
> pretty sure they provide ARIA extensions to their widgets, but I'm not sure
> what percentage of their widgets have such extensions. Source: First hand
> experience looking at their code and reading some of their articles. I
> would actually love to hear Victor Tsaran comment on this.
>
> I'm pretty sure all of the other major toolkits do not implement ARIA,
> though they may implement some keyboard handling.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Carin Headrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> >wrote:
>
>> Alrighty. Well that makes the question semi easier to answer. I wonder
>> what would be a good alternative.
>>
>> Carin
>> On 7/30/2012 10:38 AM, Scott González wrote:
>> > Is Spry even active? As far as I know, there hasn't been any mention of
>> > work on Spry since 2 years ago, and I don't think there was any ARIA
>> > support in it back then. Adobe is invested in jQuery now, so I wouldn't
>> be
>> > surprised if they've actually abandoned Spry and just haven't announced
>> it.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Carin Headrick < <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi. I was asked by someone whether spry widgets were accessible by
>> >> screen reader and/or keyboard. Through playing with
>> >> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/widgets/widgets.html I have to
>> >> say personally I had mixed results. Some of them worked like a dream,
>> >> some of them were wonky. Some of them I couldn't tell if any change
>> >> occurred.
>> >>
>> >> So how can I tell them conclusively what works and what doesn't? The
>> >> keyboard stuff looks pretty straightforward. It's the screen reader part
>> >> that has the potential to fall over. And...is it possible to some how
>> >> integrate ARIA in there to make things better? Or do they not get along?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Carin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> > >> > >> >
>>
>> >> >> >>
> > >