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From: Angela French
Date: Apr 2, 2013 2:44PM

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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>I third Jared and James (and now Cliff), though I agree with Bryan that the SSB
>Bart Group contrast checker is pretty awesome.
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>To expand on Cliff's point - if you want to see what it looks like to other
>people, but can't find any - you might consider installing color oracle
>(http://www.colororacle.org). It'll at least give you an idea of what it might
>look like to someone who is color blind.
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>Jonathan Metz
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>Angela, I agree with both Jared and James: First, use your best judgment;
>ultimately, realize that logos are exempt.
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>As for usability, folks who need larger text typically also need lower contrast-
>a white background becomes a harsh glare when viewed closely-so it's likely
>that if you can see it comfortably but are bit worried about low contrast it is
>just fine for that group.
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>With no hard and fast answers, perhaps you could find a few colleagues,
>customers, or even neighbors whose vision isn't as good as yours and see if it
>works for them. If it works for people who typically increase the contrast
>before they try to expand the size of the displayed content, then you have a
>real-world answer to your question.
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>And that's a better answer than any mathematical formula can give you.
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>Cliff Tyllick
>AT&T Corporate Accessibility Technology Office
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>On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jared Smith
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>On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Angela French
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>wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a checker I might use that would take into account
>such large letters?
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>I think the best one is between your ears. A quick glance and a bit of common
>sense should readily indicate if the logo has sufficient contrast or not.
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>If you're concerned with WCAG conformance, they treat all large text the
>same, and in this case the colors would not meet the minimal threshold for
>AAA. So you can either adjust the colors to meet the threshold, or if it looks
>like it it has sufficient contrast, just leave it and move on to more important
>matters.
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>Strictly speaking if you are concerned only with WCAG conformance then
>logos meet WCAG whatever the contrast level as they have an exemption
>within both 1.4.3 and 1.4.6
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>Regards,
>James
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>My concern actually is that it is usable. I think it is, but then again I see pretty
>well - at least the big stuff like this.
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