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From: Jonathan Metz
Date: Aug 19, 2013 7:22AM

Hi Bevi,

Olaf¹s suggestion works, but is waaaay time consuming. I¹ve run into those
before (a lot, actually, for our client). I handle inline headings just as
you proposed, but splitting them up in Acrobat. It¹s way easier than
trying to get InDesign to work the way you want it to.

So, a long explanation would be to just select the text ³This report
presents national estimates of blue widgets² and create tag from selection
in Acrobat, giving it a P tag. Change the tag to Hn for Objective.


HTH
Jonathan





On 8/19/13 8:39 AM, "Olaf Drümmer" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

>Hi Bevi,
>
>in InDesign it will require some annoying manual work but can be done -
>one example:
>put the run -in heading in its own text frame (can be part of the
>complete text chain), put that text frame on top of the text frame
>containing the continuation, make the text in that frame wrap around the
>frame used for the run-in heading; adjust the size of the small text
>frame containing the run=in heading to the proper size.
>
>Disclaimer: this proposal is not elegant! ;-)
>
>Maybe once Adobe takes their multi-channel publishing starting from
>InDesign beyond tablet centric fixed layout thinking, we can hope for
>advanced style sheet options, where a paragraph does not have to start on
>a new lineŠ. (but just continue where the previous paragraph stopped)
>
>Olaf
>
>
>Am 17 Aug 2013 um 18:48 schrieb Chagnon | PubCom < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:
>
>> Thanks, Patarick. That looks like it would work in HTML and eventually
>>in EPUB3 (which is based on HTML5 and CSS).
>>
>> In this case, these publications are designed in Adobe InDesign and
>>converted to PDF where <DIV>, .classes, and CSS controls are not
>>available.
>>
>> So it looks like the InDesign layout won't be able to format and
>>convert an inline head for the PDF.
>>
>> ‹ Bevi
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Patrick H.
>>Lauke
>> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 3:00 AM
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Question: inlne headings
>>
>> Perhaps enclosing them in a container and making them inline?
>>
>> <style>
>> .runin h2 { font-size: 1em; }
>> .runin h2, .runin p { display:inline; }
>> .runin h2::after { content:" - "; }
>> .runin { padding-bottom: 1em;}
>> </style>
>>
>> <div class="runin"><h2>Objective</h2>
>> <p> This report presents national estimates of blue widgets.</p> </div>
>><div class="runin"> <h2>Methods</h2> <p>Estimates are based on data
>>collected during 2012.</p> </div>
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 17/08/2013 05:44, Chagnon | PubCom wrote:
>>> My government clients use a visual design technique called inline
>>> headings or run-in heads. I'm trying to develop a way to make them
>>>accessible.
>>>
>>> Sample of 2 paragraphs in the original format follows. The first word
>>> of each paragraph is visually formatted to stand out, either with
>>> bold, italics, or color.
>>>
>>> Objective-This report presents national estimates of blue widgets
>>>
>>> Methods-Estimates are based on data collected during 2012.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think they should be formatted as headings, H2, but because the
>>> words "objective" and "methods" are part of a larger paragraph of body
>>> text, they can't be formatted as headings. Headings are formatted for
>>> the entire paragraph, not a partial paragraph.
>>>
>>> Is there any tag that's appropriate for these "mini headings" at the
>>> beginning of a paragraph of body text?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another option is to split them into a heading paragraph and a body
>>> text paragraph, but this is counter to US federal publishing
>>> guidelines. Sample of this method (with the tags) follows:
>>>
>>> <H2> Objective
>>>
>>> <P> This report presents national estimates of blue widgets.
>>>
>>> <H2> Methods
>>>
>>> <P> Estimates are based on data collected during 2012.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>> - Bevi Chagnon
>>>
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