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Re: Usage of title attribute or hidden label

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From: Paul Adam
Date: Nov 6, 2013 10:55AM

Also usually the title is treated as a hint or help text so it should
usually be different than the short, concise aria-label.

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> On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:34 AM, "Gunderson, Jon R" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> Paul,
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> If you use title attribute there is no reason to use aria-label, since the title attribute is part of the accessible name calculation for aria enabled technologies, and technologies that are not supporting aria would ignore the aria-label attribute anyway.
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#namecalculation
>
> Some developers don't want the tooltip for various reasons, so aria-label attribute hopefully makes adding a label easier for them, or the tooltip (title attribute) content is really providing additional information beyond what the label is providing.
>
> Jon
>
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> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Paul J. Adam
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:05 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Usage of title attribute or hidden label
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> Hey Jon, I recommend using both attributes if you want the visual tooltip reinforcement for low vision magnification users and other sighted users. Does aria-label work with other screen readers besides JAWS, NVDA, and VoiceOver? E.g. Window Eyes? Also aria-label will not work for Dragon Naturally Speaking, not sure it title attribute works well their either.
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> There's no harm in using both aria-label and title, the UA/AT should only pick one as the accessible name.
>
> Paul J. Adam
> Accessibility Evangelist
> www.deque.com
>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Gunderson, Jon R < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>> Holli,
>>
>> What legacy browser/screen reader combination was Deque concerned about not supporting aria-label?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
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>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Holli Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:17 AM
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>> I believe the recommendation at the deque conference was to use both title attribute and an aria label to support the maximum combination of browsers and screenreaders On Nov 6, 2013 11:14 AM, "Gunderson, Jon R" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>>> Another option is to use the aria-label attribute:
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-label
>>>
>>> It works just like the title attribute, but produces no tooltip.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> <input type="text" name="firstname" size="15" aria-label="First
>>> Name">
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 7:23 AM
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>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Usage of title attribute or hidden label
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have a scenario where I can't use visual text label does title
>>> attribute to input field or a hidden label will be a better option to
>>> implement as per accessibility guideline.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jyothi
>>> Accessibility Consultant
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