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Re: Keyboard navigation


From: lists@srinivasu.org
Date: Jan 24, 2014 9:42AM

Hi Sailesh,
Nice to know about opera support. I'll try that out. Thank you for sharing.

Best regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula
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Sent from my iPhone 4S

> On 24-Jan-2014, at 19:30, Sailesh Panchang < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hello Srinivasu,
> At least one browser (Opera) did permit heading navigation from the
> keyboard ... I suppose that is more robust now ... no personal
> experience there.
> My responses are in the context of the thought in the first email.
> And in that context I said that SRs do allow one to work with speech off.
> Sure one can have a user agent that allows keyboard navigation in a
> manner that is as robust as SRs allow with no speech funtctionality at
> all.
> Sailesh
>> On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Sailesh,
>> While I agree that's a solution, I'm unsure if a general keyboard only user
>> would aware of this. In fact why would they even think of a screen reader?
>> Since we are all in the accessibility industry, we could think of cross
>> disability and aware of AT features across.
>> Also, I'm not sure if screen reader vendors ever document with keywords of
>> other disabilities.
>> Further, all they would need is a quick navigation feature and why would
>> they need to install a screen reader that require investment of more space.
>> Can we think of a plugin that could just turn on quick navigation feature by
>> pressing an access key?
>> Am I missing something?
>> Regards,
>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
>> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 16:33, Sailesh Panchang < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> wrote:
>>> Speech off has been built into SRs for the same reason for a long time
>>> now.
>>> For some aspects, if visual cursor tracking does not work as intended,
>>> that's a bug to be fixed.
>>> But overall it is the solution you were hoping for as per your first
>>> email.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Sailesh
>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> I understand that as screen reader myself, however, I'm not convinced
>>>> that
>>>> with speech off, the visual cursor would track correctly. I'll half to
>>>> ask
>>>> some of my visual friends.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:57 PM
>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation
>>>> Screen readers do have speech off mode that allow one to do this. The
>>>> free
>>>> NVDA screen reader can help such users.
>>>> A decade ago IBM HPR also had this feature. JAWS too works with speech
>>>> off.
>>>> Sailesh
>>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>> Hi list -
>>>>> I've had an interesting idea proposed to me. With the many folks that
>>>>> are not able to use a mouse, yet have no visual issues, wouldn't it be
>>>>> a great help if they had some of the same quick key navigation
>>>>> abilities such as jumping from headings, button, check boxes, radio
>>>>> buttons etc. This would certainly save the users a lot of tabbing and
>>>>> arrowing. Just imagine how much easier it would be for a user to
>>>>> bring up a list of headings, buttons etc.
>>>>> As more folks get older and or have permanent wrist injuries, I think
>>>>> this kind of keyboard navigation would be quite popular. It seems
>>>>> like a screen reader company like FS or GW-micro would have a whole
>>>>> new market to tap in to. Any thoughts?
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