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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Jan 24, 2014 10:18AM

Sara

What happens when user needs to use the n key when typing into a form
field on the page.
Basically, a keyboar navigation interface needs to allow for the
concept of interactive typing and filling in forms, similar to the
forms mode in screen readers.
I absolutely agree that browsers should offer up a more robust support
for keyboard only behavior.
I think that would be a fantastic addition for a lot of people, not
just with disabilities but frequent/power users of websites.
I know the traders at the investment bank I used to work for always
used a console mode app for trading stocks because using the keyboard
they could pull of trades much more quickly.



On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi Sailesh,
> Nice to know about opera support. I'll try that out. Thank you for sharing.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
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> Sent from my iPhone 4S
>
>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 19:30, Sailesh Panchang < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Srinivasu,
>> At least one browser (Opera) did permit heading navigation from the
>> keyboard ... I suppose that is more robust now ... no personal
>> experience there.
>> My responses are in the context of the thought in the first email.
>> And in that context I said that SRs do allow one to work with speech
>> off.
>> Sure one can have a user agent that allows keyboard navigation in a
>> manner that is as robust as SRs allow with no speech funtctionality at
>> all.
>> Sailesh
>>
>>
>>> On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> Sailesh,
>>> While I agree that's a solution, I'm unsure if a general keyboard only
>>> user
>>> would aware of this. In fact why would they even think of a screen
>>> reader?
>>> Since we are all in the accessibility industry, we could think of cross
>>> disability and aware of AT features across.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm not sure if screen reader vendors ever document with keywords
>>> of
>>> other disabilities.
>>>
>>> Further, all they would need is a quick navigation feature and why would
>>> they need to install a screen reader that require investment of more
>>> space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we think of a plugin that could just turn on quick navigation feature
>>> by
>>> pressing an access key?
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>>
>>>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 16:33, Sailesh Panchang < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Speech off has been built into SRs for the same reason for a long time
>>>> now.
>>>> For some aspects, if visual cursor tracking does not work as intended,
>>>> that's a bug to be fixed.
>>>> But overall it is the solution you were hoping for as per your first
>>>> email.
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> Sailesh
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>> I understand that as screen reader myself, however, I'm not convinced
>>>>> that
>>>>> with speech off, the visual cursor would track correctly. I'll half
>>>>> to
>>>>> ask
>>>>> some of my visual friends.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:57 PM
>>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation
>>>>>
>>>>> Screen readers do have speech off mode that allow one to do this. The
>>>>> free
>>>>> NVDA screen reader can help such users.
>>>>> A decade ago IBM HPR also had this feature. JAWS too works with speech
>>>>> off.
>>>>> Sailesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>>> Hi list -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had an interesting idea proposed to me. With the many folks
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> are not able to use a mouse, yet have no visual issues, wouldn't it
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a great help if they had some of the same quick key navigation
>>>>>> abilities such as jumping from headings, button, check boxes, radio
>>>>>> buttons etc. This would certainly save the users a lot of tabbing
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> arrowing. Just imagine how much easier it would be for a user to
>>>>>> bring up a list of headings, buttons etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As more folks get older and or have permanent wrist injuries, I think
>>>>>> this kind of keyboard navigation would be quite popular. It seems
>>>>>> like a screen reader company like FS or GW-micro would have a whole
>>>>>> new market to tap in to. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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