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Re: Keyboard navigation


From: Bourne, Sarah (ITD)
Date: Jan 24, 2014 10:33AM

Birkir, when you have focus on a form field, the shortcuts do not work. It enters the letter n or p into the field, or jumps to that letter in a drop-list, etc. When you tab out of the form field, the shortcuts work again.

Sarah E. Bourne
Director of Assistive Technology &
Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
Information Technology Division
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108

-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:18 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation


What happens when user needs to use the n key when typing into a form field on the page.
Basically, a keyboar navigation interface needs to allow for the concept of interactive typing and filling in forms, similar to the forms mode in screen readers.
I absolutely agree that browsers should offer up a more robust support for keyboard only behavior.
I think that would be a fantastic addition for a lot of people, not just with disabilities but frequent/power users of websites.
I know the traders at the investment bank I used to work for always used a console mode app for trading stocks because using the keyboard they could pull of trades much more quickly.

On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi Sailesh,
> Nice to know about opera support. I'll try that out. Thank you for sharing.
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> Sent from my iPhone 4S
>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 19:30, Sailesh Panchang
>> wrote:
>> Hello Srinivasu,
>> At least one browser (Opera) did permit heading navigation from the
>> keyboard ... I suppose that is more robust now ... no personal
>> experience there.
>> My responses are in the context of the thought in the first email.
>> And in that context I said that SRs do allow one to work with speech
>> off.
>> Sure one can have a user agent that allows keyboard navigation in a
>> manner that is as robust as SRs allow with no speech funtctionality
>> at all.
>> Sailesh
>>> On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> Sailesh,
>>> While I agree that's a solution, I'm unsure if a general keyboard
>>> only user would aware of this. In fact why would they even think of
>>> a screen reader?
>>> Since we are all in the accessibility industry, we could think of
>>> cross disability and aware of AT features across.
>>> Also, I'm not sure if screen reader vendors ever document with
>>> keywords of other disabilities.
>>> Further, all they would need is a quick navigation feature and why
>>> would they need to install a screen reader that require investment
>>> of more space.
>>> Can we think of a plugin that could just turn on quick navigation
>>> feature by pressing an access key?
>>> Am I missing something?
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone
>>> 5C
>>>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 16:33, Sailesh Panchang
>>>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Speech off has been built into SRs for the same reason for a long
>>>> time now.
>>>> For some aspects, if visual cursor tracking does not work as
>>>> intended, that's a bug to be fixed.
>>>> But overall it is the solution you were hoping for as per your
>>>> first email.
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> Sailesh
>>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>> I understand that as screen reader myself, however, I'm not
>>>>> convinced that with speech off, the visual cursor would track
>>>>> correctly. I'll half to ask some of my visual friends.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:57 PM
>>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation
>>>>> Screen readers do have speech off mode that allow one to do this.
>>>>> The free NVDA screen reader can help such users.
>>>>> A decade ago IBM HPR also had this feature. JAWS too works with
>>>>> speech off.
>>>>> Sailesh
>>>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>>> Hi list -
>>>>>> I've had an interesting idea proposed to me. With the many folks
>>>>>> that are not able to use a mouse, yet have no visual issues,
>>>>>> wouldn't it be a great help if they had some of the same quick
>>>>>> key navigation abilities such as jumping from headings, button,
>>>>>> check boxes, radio buttons etc. This would certainly save the
>>>>>> users a lot of tabbing and arrowing. Just imagine how much
>>>>>> easier it would be for a user to bring up a list of headings,
>>>>>> buttons etc.
>>>>>> As more folks get older and or have permanent wrist injuries, I
>>>>>> think this kind of keyboard navigation would be quite popular.
>>>>>> It seems like a screen reader company like FS or GW-micro would
>>>>>> have a whole new market to tap in to. Any thoughts?
>>>>>> --
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