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Re: math captcha (Drupal module)

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From: Dona Patrick
Date: Aug 5, 2014 1:09PM

Thank you all for your feedback. I was pretty sure it was an accessibility
issue. I believe the math question is created on-the-fly with JavaScript or
something (not my area of expertise) so I wonder how that can be placed
inside the <label> tag.

Interestingly, I contacted the individual on whose site I found the example
(not the site I tested for work) and he said it was not a problem for
screen reader users. That they would know to use their arrow keys to find
other information. I am going to have him take a look at this thread.

Dona


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO <
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> Good morning Listers,
>
> What would be the correct coding for this math problem?
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Sailesh Panchang
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:03 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] math captcha (Drupal module)
>
> Couple of points to note:
> Only the text Math Question and the asterisk for required field is within
> the LABEL tag... not the actual question. (also noted by Jim) So include
> the actual question within the LABEL tag.
> Use aria-required="true" on the INPUT control and drop the title attribute
> on LABEL.
> The explanatory text outside the LEGEND tag is not read unless one
> arrows up/down. So include it within the LEGEND or use aria-describedby to
> associate that text ... but a whole lot of descriptive text will cause a
> usability issue.
> Sailesh
>
> On 8/4/14, Jim Allan < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > The problem should be within the e.g. <label
> > for="captcha-answer">Solve the math problem 6+6</label> then it will
> > be spoken and associated with the input control.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Dona Patrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm evaluating a website for accessibility. This site has a math
> >> captcha in which the math question is not read while in forms mode by
> >> JAWS or NVDA.
> >> The user can use the up arrow key to hear the question, but it is not
> >> read when tabbing into the form field.
> >>
> >> It is very similar to the captcha on this page:
> >>
> >> http://www.pathstoliteracy.org/technology/typeability-keyboard-instru
> >> ction-software-jaws-and-magic Where, while tabbing into the captcha
> >> form field both JAWS and NVDA read "Captcha math question star edit.
> >> Type in text."
> >>
> >> My gut says that this is an accessibility problem but I wanted to
> >> check with the experts before adding it to my report. Do screen
> >> reader users just know that if something seems to be missing from a
> >> form field to use arrow keys to find it or is this a true
> >> accessibility issue?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Dona
> >> > >> > >> list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
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