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Re: link only saying "click here"
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Nov 19, 2014 1:18PM
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Andrew
This is an unfortunate development though.
Any assistive technology application can choose to announce
programmatic context, either upon user request or in response to a
user verbosity setting.
Just because Jaws is the only screen reader that has bothered to
support preceeding heading as a programatic context, should not force
the group to essentially remove it as a useful technique.
This is, in my view, a much clearer programmatic context than being
contained in same paragraph or sentence, for instance, and on par with
using row / or column headers in a table to provide programmatic
context.
That being said, I don't want to steer this discussion way off course,
and I am sure there were similar discussions on-going when that
particular decision was made.
I am just a little surprised at the rationale.
I try first to bug the assistive technology vendors until they give
up, give in, and implement the durn feature I want .. granted it does
not always work. ;)
Thumbs up for NVDA for being open and responsive to any issues being filed.
-Birkir
On 11/19/14, Andrew Kirkpatrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Birkir,
> The Group made the decision to move the technique H80 to be advisory as a
> result of support among assistive technologies being limited to JAWS. If a
> developer were to define what they need to rely on for accessibility support
> to be limited to JAWS then they might still make use of H80 in complying
> with WCAG.
> AWK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
> Gunnarsson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:28 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>
> Hi
>
> I thought a recent decision meant that preceeding heading was not considered
> programatically determinable context.
> I am not saying it shouldn't be, just that I heard a WCAG group made this
> decision.
> Thanks
> -Birkir
>
> On 11/18/14, Andrew Kirkpatrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Susan,
>> Depends on the context of the link. Check out
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140916/F63 for more
>> examples.
>> AWK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:09 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>>
>> I would think this would fall under 2.4.4.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mark [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>>
>> Op 29-10-14 om 16:14 schreef Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO:
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> Here is the link for the description of this. My tester tells me this
>>> is a tripple A requirement. I can't believe this. Is there some other
>>> double A level requirement which could be sited?
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140916/F84
>>>
>>>
>> there is SC 2.2.4 which says a link should not be ambiguous and is a
>> level A req.
>> Mark
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