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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Feb 19, 2015 10:44PM

This will be my final note on this thread, since I have gotten a number of
personal notes regarding my comments. My point is simply this: while
inDesign can make accessible PDFs, it is no where near being user friendly.
Adding somebody's lack of knowledge of accessibility, just compounds the
issue some magnitude I don't know how to compute. Also, adding to the pile
that a fair number of graphic artists I have worked see accessibility "not
their issue." I know that this is something different in itself.

Bevi said:
> Since version 5.5, there's been no need to use the structure pane for
accessible PDFs from InDesign.

then

>The articles panel isn't very helpful in most documents, like long docs.
>You have to watch your story threading, anchored objects and layers
throughout to get the correct tag structure, but that's just InDesign 101
that you should be doing anyway.
>If you've used InDesign's tools correctly, the tag order will follow
exactly what you've laid out.

If I missed something, please let me know. There are two ways to effect the
output, the structure pane and the articles pane. So post 5.5, the
structure pane doesn't need to be used, but usually the articles pane isn't
helpful? So what should be used to determine the output without making and
double checking the PDF? While it has been over a year since I read stuff,
most documentation I read basically said not to touch the structure pane,
only the articles pane. I found one tutorial that had step-by-step
instructions. Following these, I think I gave myself score in the 70s.
Trying myself, the score was much worse. Scrapping the new method, and
using the structure pane, it was in the low 90s - which is the norm for me,
since there is always something needing a tweak in Acrobat.

> Edition #46 February-March 2012 at www.InDesignMagazine.com
I get a "buy this domain" type page for the linkk.

--
Ryan E. Benson

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Chagnon | PubCom < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> No, not entirely.
> The articles panel isn't very helpful in most documents, like long docs.
> You have to watch your story threading, anchored objects and layers
> throughout to get the correct tag structure, but that's just InDesign 101
> that you should be doing anyway.
> If you've used InDesign's tools correctly, the tag order will follow
> exactly what you've laid out.
> Using the structure pane is a royal pain, as in PITA. It drops XML tags
> into the document which then get royally botched as normal copy/paste
> editing actions are done during production. And what a slowdown on the
> computer!
>
> IMHO, that's a pretty lousy way to use InDesign! For XML, yes, which is
> what it was designed to do. But that overhead isn't needed for accessible
> PDFs. I'd rather do other things with my time than wait from my 500-page
> government document to refresh the structure pane!
>
> --Bevi Chagnon
>
>