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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: May 11, 2015 6:57AM

The question that I keep coming back to is "why can't you use your player on the CD?" There shouldn't be a technological reason why not – is there more to the story?
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From: L Snider [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:10 PM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Caption Question

Hi Andrew,
Thanks, that information was very useful. I hadn't explored the separate file versus embedding yet in Premiere. I also now need to play with Primetime as well, thanks.
So I guess the next question I would ask is what do the majority of people do in this case? Open Captions? Closed Captions? Would the FCC/CVAA rules be the ones to go with?
Cheers
Lisa

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >> wrote:
To clarify on the point of what Adobe Premiere can do, you certainly could create "burned in" captions in Premiere just as you can with an video editor, but as Jon says there is a lost opportunity there for caption display modification/customization.

Premiere allows authors to import caption files, edit the caption data (which is shown on the video during editing at the editor's preference), and export the captions either as a separate file or (for quicktime) with the data embedded in the video asset. Another Adobe tool (Primetime) will allow you to embed caption data and stream the video files to a variety of devices and it embeds the data correctly for a variety of platform environments and allows the end user to modify the display appearance of the captions in the way that is required by the FCC/CVAA rules.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/closed-captioning.html

AWK

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >] On Behalf Of Jonathan Avila
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Caption Question

> I'm a big fan of open captions

One challenge with open captions is that users cannot change the visual appearance of the captions -- this can be a challenge for people who have a visual impairment in addition to being deaf or hard of hearing. Also on smaller devices users may need to increase the size of the captions. There is another technique to encapsulate closed captions into the media file -- that way the captions are included in a single file -- although this technique may be more limited though in it's support for different platforms and players.

Jonathan

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >] On Behalf Of Sam Cartsos
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:37 AM
To: L Snider; WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Caption Question

I'm a big fan of open captions. I've never used Adobe's products for this, but anything that makes the process simpler is worth exploring. In the past, I've batched images of the text data out of Photoshop into a Final Cut timeline.

Thanks,
Sam

On 5/7/2015 3:32 PM, L Snider wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> Thanks so much, great information. I am now researching players and
> captioning, interesting stuff there.
>
> I also found out (for those that have to do this as well) that one can
> use the original files and create captions in Adobe Encore and
> Premiere Pro. This is useful for 'burning in' the captioning.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Sam Cartsos < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
> Assuming you're burning this CD as a data disk, you'll want to
> place your media and caption files in the same directory, and
> ensure that they have the same filename. You can include more than
> one caption file to accommodate different players - SRT and SMI
> files might be a good choice. When the user opens the media file
> in their default or preferred player, and assuming they've enabled
> caption/subtitle playback in their player, the captions will show.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
>
> On 5/6/2015 11:35 AM, L Snider wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am captioning a video for a webpage. No problem there,
> because the player
> uses WebVTT and it reads the captions from that file.
>
> However, I now have to put this video on a CD. I haven't
> worked with video
> on CD before. I can't use my lovely player and WebVTT
> file...However, I can
> make the captioning file in another format (I have access to SRT,
> SBV,DFXP,SMI, QT, RT, STL, SUB, SMPTE-TT and SCC). How is the
> best way to
> do this without having to do things manually? Is there an
> automated way of
> getting the captions into the video?
>
> I have access to Adobe software, and I think I can do this
> through Media
> Encoder but am working on that now...
>
> If anyone has any suggestions/advice/etc, please let me know!
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Lisa
>
>
>

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