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Re: form select dropdown - label, title or aria?

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From: James Nurthen
Date: Sep 10, 2015 4:18AM

Dragon 13 supports aria-label for some field types (checkboxes, radio
buttons, links, buttons) but does not seem to support it on Inputs and
Selects. It does support aria-labelledby on these types though. Hopefully
Nuance will fix this oversight soon.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED>
> wrote:

> [DianeT wrote] Given that, I think I'll go with the aria-label :)
>
> I have two comments that are food for thought and not a criticism. I hope
> they don't complicate the situation but it's important to consider the
> non-screen reader implications of the situation.
>
> Currently Dragon Naturally Speaking does not support the aria-label
> property. So people who use Dragon may not be able to speak the name of
> the field to focus it. This is a common issue and Dragon users often rely
> on spoken keyboard interface commands or may be able to use other direct
> voice commands such as "click list" to focus a select box. Title is better
> supported by Dragon as far as I know.
>
> When the select field contains a value other than the default explainer
> value there may be no visual label for the field. WCAG SC 3.3.2 requires
> visual labels for all user input. It is worth considering this as a
> potential reason to have a label that is always visually available.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jonathan
>
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> On 8 September 2015 at 3:52pm, Steve Faulkner < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
> >In the abssence of any other source of an accessible name for a control
> >title works well across browsers and AT.
> >aria-label is the more semantically correct method and also works well,
> >but older browsers (IE< 9 or 10) don't support.
>
> Thanks for the feedback and the link.
>
> For the sites we're currently building, we don't support anything below
> IE9 anyway (and that will change to 10 soon), and visitors will get an
> 'outdated browser' message if they land on our sites using an unsupported
> browser version, so they are notified immediately.
>
> Given that, I think I'll go with the aria-label :)
>
> Regards,
> DianeT
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