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Re: WCAG criterion failed when content can be read screen reader, when it shouldn't be?

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From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Dec 18, 2015 8:48AM


Sarah,

I really like your reasoning. Perhaps, as accessibility specialists we are overly focused on trying to relate every problem that we find to a specific accessibility standard not being met. I would imagine that the functional requirement of the application specified that the message is hidden after it is dismissed. That functional requirement was not met.

This is more ammunition for me to use in my efforts to make accessibility testing part of the unit, QA, and UAT/regression testing cycles and not a separate activity.

Thanks,

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WCAG criterion failed when content can be read screen reader, when it shouldn't be?

4.1.2 seems more likely to me. But I would consider this a failure of a functional requirement: some users are being shown content that is supposed to be hidden. You happened to notice it because a screen reader was picking it up, but there may other situations where this flaw is evident as well.

sb
Sarah E. Bourne
Director of IT Accessibility, MassIT
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WCAG criterion failed when content can be read screen reader, when it shouldn't be?

I am confused, 1.3.2 or 4.1.2? Both of them seems convincing to me though I am leaning towards 1.3.2 Meaningful sequence.

Thanks & Regards
Rakesh


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> 4.1.2 (name, role, value, and technically state also) If it should be
> hidden to all users, it should to be hidden to a screen reader user as
> well.
>
>
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> On 12/17/15, Robert Fentress < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > Can anybody tell me what WCAG criterion would be failed if there was
> > content that was readable to a screen reader that shouldn't be, for
> > instance, if one dismisses a modal dialog, but it is still readable
> > by
> the
> > screen reader at the end of the page? Thanks.
> >
> > Best,
> > Rob
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