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Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?

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From: Mike Barlow
Date: Mar 29, 2016 3:10PM


Hmmm Cliff, I just tried checking out the digitalgov subscribe page
<http://connect.digitalgov.gov/subscribe>; and I'm not sure but it looks
like they have an accessibility/usability issue there...

They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no
instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that
the Email field is required.
I can't pin my finger on the exact guideline that this violates but,
personally, I never have required fields without clear instructions on the
form before the form itself.
The "You didn't fill out this field" helper is good but not if it only
presents itself after the fact (which would require the user to backtrack
in filling in the form).

Now I know you don't have anything to do with the design of that site/page
but it never ceases to amaze me at how poor state and federal sites are at
complying with 508 federal regs...

(sorry just had to let that rant out)

Anyone else have any thoughts on that topic?


*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Mike Barlow < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Thanks Cliff...
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the Web
>> Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
>> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We cover a
>> variety of topics in our conversations, and the question you're asking
>> would be right in line.
>>
>> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more information
>> is www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> Cliff Tyllick
>> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
>> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> 512-438-2494 (o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages are
>> its fault.
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
>> > process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>> > developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>> together.
>> >
>> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
>> but
>> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
>> > Android development?
>> >
>> > *Mike Barlow*
>> > Web Application Developer
>> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>> >
>> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> > Office: 732.784.3047
>> > Cell: 732.682.8226
>> > e-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Kelly,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>> creating
>> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
>> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
>> deaf-blindness.
>> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>> accessible
>> >> and not so user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>> time
>> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
>> and
>> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
>> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>> >>
>> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
>> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> >> < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>> website/mobile
>> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>> >>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
>> have
>> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
>> >>>
>> >>> Kelly
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello -
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>> groups
>> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
>> iOS
>> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
>> be
>> >>>> helpful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike Bicknell
>> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> >>>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >>>> Email: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>> site):
>> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>
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