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Re: Seeking input on SC 2.4.7 & Screen Readers

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From: _mallory
Date: May 3, 2016 11:02AM

Wait, are you getting to focussed items using tab or using arrows/
quicknav?

I don't always get visible focus when keyboard focus isn't at the
focusable, even when my SR-"cursor" is on the focusable.

Since browsers and CSS can't detect screen readers, I can't see how
one could have :focus styles working before a screen reader is
turned on but go away after one is turned on... but I can imagine
that maybe you're going from a keyboard cursor to a SR one.

To have visible "focus" on that, I believe needs to be built into
the screen reader (or magnifier, for example ZoomText has this
built in if you turn it on). There's been some talk on the orca
mailing list about adding that to Orca (as a plugin).

_mallory

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 09:21:42AM -0500, Paul J. Adam wrote:
> I would say yes, focus visible is always required. The user could have low vision with a screen magnifier and screen reader running at the same time and then would need to see their focus location.
>
> Paul J. Adam
> Accessibility Evangelist
> www.deque.com
>
> > On May 3, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Nicole < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > While I have been a long time lurker on this list, this is my first posting. I am hoping to receive some clarification on SC 2.4.7 (Focus Visible) as it relates to screen readers.
> >
> > In the application I am testing, visible focus is present when navigating through the submenu items (links) of a drop down/fly out menu in any browser being tested. When the HTML submenu link receives visible focus in the form of a dotted rectangle.
> >
> > However, when I enable JAWS or NVDA, this visible focus is lost. The link context and the ability to interact with the submenu links are still intact. It is just the visible focus that is no longer present. Being a sighted user, I 'see' this. My question is...does this constitute a failure for 2.4.7?
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> > Nicole Bergstrom
> > Web Accessibility Consultant
> > Fairfax, Virginia
> > (c) 703-307-2438
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