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Re: Acessibility of a date picker?


From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: May 26, 2016 7:59AM

That is precisely what we did with the Deque calendar widget in fact.
It was developed in late 2014, and it was necessary back then, screen
readers would not consistently go into forms mode.
I did a test more recently, and the grid role caused Jaws and NVDA
with IE and FF to go into application/forms mode, so it appears that
the application role is no longer needed (though it might still be
acceptable for backward compatibility).
And, yeah, it does make some sense that aria-readonly attribute on a
grid prevents Jaws from going into forms mode.

On 5/26/16, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> The table with role="grid" has aria-readonly="true" which is probably what
>> is preventing screen readers from going into forms mode.
> One additional thing many accessible date pickers use is the role of
> application to force Windows screen readers into forms mode. Generally we
> don't recommend this type of behavior but in some cases it may be needed.
> From my experience NVDA and Firefox seem to go into forms/focus mode when
> you focus a grid but as Birkir mentions with JAWS and Firefox JAWS will not
> go into forms mode when aria-readonly is set to true. If it is not set to
> true then JAWS will go into forms mode on a grid. So there would appear to
> be differences between ATs and perhaps browsers as well -- so that may be
> why in the past people resorted to wrapping the grid with role of
> application.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Acessibility of a date picker?
> Ach! Donnerwetter!
> ARIA is not used properly.
> The table with role="grid" has aria-readonly="true" which is probably what
> is preventing screen readers from going into forms mode.
> It uses aria-activedescendant to manage focus, I'd have to see the
> JavaScript to determine whether the id target for that attribute is being
> correctly updated as user presses the arrow keys (the ID should be updated
> to point to the active cell in the grid as the user navigates within it).
> But I see a warning sign that the grid itself is not in focus order, which
> is necessary for aria-activedescdnant to work, see:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-activedescendant
> The divs turn buttons you mention need to have both an onclick event as well
> as an onkeypress listening for the appropriate keys (13 for enter, 32 for
> spacebar).
> This one will need some ARIA TLC.
> On 5/26/16, Sonja Weckenmann < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm evaluating a german airport-website. There are problems with the
>> date picker.
>> http://www.dortmund-airport.de/flugplan
>> I think keybord navigation is quite good when not using a screenreader.
>> When using NVDA/FF or JAWS/IE keybord navigation doesn't work:
>> - Navigation with up arrow and down arrow doesn't work.
>> - It isn't possible to activate the buttons for changing the month and
>> the two buttons "Schließen" and "Löschen".
>> - I'm not quite sure, but I think it is also not easy to get the month
>> spoken with the screenreader?
>> - The date of each cell has an aria-label="27.05.2016" but it is not
>> spoken by the screenreader. I dont't know why.
>> Similar problems occur when trying to select the departure time for
>> example.
>> Does anybody know whether it is a question of incorrect implementation
>> of ARIA or is it a scripting problem?
>> Why does keybord navigation work without screenreader and when using
>> screenreader it is bad?
>> Thanks a lot
>> sonja
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