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Re: +1 EoM Question on the alt text for images...

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From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Date: Jul 18, 2016 4:40AM

Does that make sense?

It means "I agree with the thing I replied to - in this case Karl's
message. And that's all my message, so you can delete it before you get to
this bit…"

Or you can do that now :)

cheers

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:47:00 +0200, Karl Brown < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> With your specific alt text I'd be tempted to rephrase it from:
> *Configuration dialog box with the "Next" button highlighted (optionally
> you could simply press the enter key rather than clicking on the "Next"
> button)*
>
> To:
> To proceed, press the 'Next' button, or use the 'Enter' key
>
> The aim of alternative text is to help someone understand the meaningful
> information in some non-text content. Without seeing the image you're
> describing it's hard to be specific, but I'd wonder whether the fact
> something's highlighted on the image is relevant information. What I'm
> reading is that these are instructions on how to move forward in a
> journey,
> so that should be the main direction the alternative text goes in.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Whitney Quesenbery < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to understand why you need the parentheses at all.
>>
>> I'm also trying to understand what the image looks like that goes along
>> with the alt text you shared. It sounds like you are trying to use the
>> alt
>> text to ADD information that should be in the text or caption.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:05 PM Thad C < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > In the use cases you provided I do not think you need quotes or
>> > parentheses. In the second case I believe the phrase in parenthesis
>> could
>> > be written as a separate sentence instead of within parentheses and be
>> > grammatically correct.
>> >
>> > Best
>> > On Jul 16, 2016 11:47 AM, "Jennifer Sutton" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Does the question honestly still remain?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Were you disagreeing with me, David, or were you explaining to Mike
>> what
>> > > your personal settings happened to speak, with whatever screen
>> reader
>> you
>> > > happened to be using at the time?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > There's no question in my mind, based on decades of both using a
>> screen
>> > > reader and interacting with many many others who do. The answer is:
>> write
>> > > alt text like you normally would write anything else, and try not to
>> make
>> > > typos, like I see quite often (that's nothing screen-reader-centric;
>> it's
>> > > just showing that you care about alt text as much as you care about
>> any
>> > > other content you write for the web).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I assumed, Mike, that the stars (asterisks) were simply for
>> illustration
>> > > purposes.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > More than my two cents.
>> > >
>> > > Jennifer
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 7/16/2016 10:03 AM, Mike Barlow wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks David, so the question still remains should those types of
>> > >> punctuation be used in alt-text for images, or should simpler (but
>> > >> possibly
>> > >> longer) alt-text.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Jul 14, 2016 9:59 AM, "David Farough"
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> With regard to the use of quotation and parenthesis when specifying
>> alt
>> > >>> text, sometimes the use of parenthesis will cause a synthesizer to
>> > speak
>> > >>> the word, followed by the string contained within the parenthesis
>> > >>> without speaking the
>> > >>> parenthesis punctuation. sometimes the results are unpredictable.
>> > >>> in the alt text you quoted, see below: .
>> > >>> *Configuration dialog box with the "Next" button highlighted
>> > >>> (optionally you could simply press the enter key rather than
>> clicking
>> > on
>> > >>> the "Next" button)*
>> > >>> I did not hear the quotes or parenthesis spoken. I did however
>> hear
>> > >>> the asterisks as star.
>> > >>> A screen reader delivers this text as a single unit of text. The
>> user
>> > >>> cannot examine this text unless they use a Braille display,, or
>> are
>> > able
>> > >>> to view it on screen.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> .
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> David Farough
>> > >>>
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