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From: JP Jamous
Date: Oct 8, 2016 8:50AM

FYI, I got the iPhone 7 Plus for my wife yesterday. It has that 3D digital touch, meaning when you press the menu button or the screen you feel it bending under your finger like you just pressed on a sand bag or a stress ball.

I also noticed that vibration is a standard of iPhone 7. So when you press the menu button it activates voiceover and vibrates as well.

Just mentioning this to alert you that some app manufacturers are probably doing this to provide that 3D touch experience. I do agree with all of you that it has 0 to do with error alertness. That should be either by voiceover through ARIA or some noise. However, it could come handy if someone has blindness and some hearing loss as the vibration can be an additional sign of alertness.

We all know though that for app manufacturers, for the most part, that is not their concern at all. They just want to provide that 3D touch for users period.

I thought, I'd give you folks a head's up so you know.

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Maxability Accessibility for all
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 2:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Vibrating phone on invalid input entry

Hi Nawaz,

I don't think vibration of the phone is an identifiable error pattern for screen reader users. Having it the only notification will harm them.


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Maraikayar Prem Nawaz < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Thank you team.
>
> Had an argument with the developer, where the developer said, "May be
> the screen reader user already know that this an error, and this is an
> well recognized error pattern".
> Yes vibration was the only way to indicate error.
>
> I didn't think about this scenario "for people who have a tablet
> mounted on a stand and can't therefore feel the vibration". Thanks
> Patrick :-)
>
> Regards
> -Nawaz
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 7:14 PM, JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > I guess at that point your phone doesn't feel like talking to you.
> > LOL
> >
> >
> > Just kidding.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:31 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Vibrating phone on invalid input entry
> >
> > I have experienced tis on iOS 10 when myfingerprint rader does not
> > detect my thumb correctly.
> > I just get a vibration not a "try again" message.
> > Usually I get both, but there are definite instances where I only
> > got the vibration.
> >
> >
> > On 10/6/16, JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > 1. What is the app? I ask because I experienced it with Youtube app.
> > > However, voiceover did speak immediately the reason why the
> > > vibration took place.
> > > 2. Ensure that this is not a setting inside the app itself.
> > > Different apps can set their own ways of alerting the user.
> > > 3. If you are using iOS 10, keep in mind that it still has lots of
> > > bugs as far as accessibility. I have no idea how the heck they
> > > released it when aria-describedby and labeledby were not working
> > > in
> > Safari.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> > > On Behalf Of Maraikayar Prem Nawaz
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:15 AM
> > > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > Subject: [WebAIM] Vibrating phone on invalid input entry
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > > Discovered a error pattern on one of the apps for iPhone where
> > > phone would shake on invalid input while nothing is announced by voiceover.
> > >
> > > Is this is a correct pattern for invalid input.
> > >
> > > Read a similar thing in this blog
> > > http://babich.biz/how-to-use-animation-to-improve-ux/ ..
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Nawaz
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