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From: Bim Egan
Date: Jan 11, 2018 2:58PM


Hi Rob,

Well there you go, I didn't realise that. In my firm's own implementation
of it, activating the top-level link opens the dropdown and moves focus to
the first child link (also the first content). So tabbing back to the parent
just closes the dropdown and activating opens it again. Perhaps this only
works if the very first content in the dropdown is a link.

Thanks for letting me know, I'll make a note of that, very handy,

Bim


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
Of Robert Fentress
Sent: 11 January 2018 19:31
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Dropdown Menus

Hi, Bim.

My problem with Adobe's mega menu is that, when using the keyboard, the link
that opens the menu also goes to a page, meaning that the same interface
component serves two roles depending on when it is activated.
For example, try the following:

On the demo page you referenced (https://adobe-accessibility.g
ithub.io/Accessible-Mega-Menu/), set focus to the the first item in the
menubar, "Perceivable." What does it do? Well, let's see. I'm gonna guess
it is a trigger for expanding the menu (if I am using a screen reader, I am
given cues that this is what I can expect it to do), so I'll press the Enter
key.

Ta-da! It opens the menu. I guess I was correct.

Alright, I've seen what's in there, so I'm guessing I could hit the Enter
key again to collapse the menu. Here goes.

Wait. What? It took me to a page? I thought it was a menu trigger.

Those bastards! They tricked me!

Best,
Rob

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Middleton, John < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Sandy,
> The Adobe accessible Mega Menu doesn't appear to have the 'hamburger'
> feature for smaller screens (at least from the configured linked example).
> You may want to look at Wet/BOEW menu example at:
> http://wet-boew.github.io/v4.0-ci/demos/menu/menu-en.html
>
>
> This accessible menu does have the 'hamburger' menu feature for mobile
> devices. Of course there will be a boat-load of CSS that goes along
> with this.
>
> Regards,
> John Middleton
> Developer/Accessibility Enthusiast
> Austin, Tx.
>
>
> On 1/10/18, 9:25 AM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Sandy Feldman" <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of
> <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> >Is there an example/tutorial/download of this somewhere where the
> >navigation tucks under a hamburger when it's small, the way it does
> >on the Adobe site?
> >
> >thanks! Sandy
> >
> >
> >On 2018-01-09 10:24 AM, Bim Egan wrote:
> >> I like the Adobe example of an accessible mega menu:
> >> https://adobe-accessibility.github.io/Accessible-Mega-Menu/
> >>
> >> If appropriate the menu can contain headings, lists, paragraphs or
> images,
> >> as well as the menu links.
> >>
> >> It behaves exactly as it should, with the menu opening when the top
> level
> >> link is activated and collapsing when keyboard focus moves away
> >> from the last item in the dropdown, on desktop anyway. It has only
> >> one flaw that
> I've
> >> found and that is that the menu doesn't collapse when focus moves
> >> to the next top level link on small screens, for instance with
> >> VoiceOver
> running.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Bim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Terzian, Sharon
> >> Sent: 09 January 2018 14:58
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Dropdown Menus
> >>
> >> Thank you for bringing this up (again) I am totally interested in
> >> this
> as
> >> I've been wrestling with drop down menus forever!!!
> >> And yet to find a solution for that
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf
> >> Of JP Jamous
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 8:05 PM
> >> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> Subject: [WebAIM] Dropdown Menus
> >>
> >> Hi WebAimers,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been researching dropdown menus on the web, but I wanted to
> >> find
> out
> >> what you folks have to share. Here is my situation below.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a nested dropdown menu on a client's web site. It is made up
> >> of a button that drops a list of menus onmouseover. The menus and
> >> their
> submenus
> >> stay visible for mouse users, as it works great for them. However,
> >> it is terrifying to screen reader and keyboard only users, because
> >> it has an
> array
> >> of nested links totaling about 50 links.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I figured that if I add onfocus to the menu button, the browser
> >> would
> detect
> >> a keyboard command and I can dropdown only the first level of
> >> menus. If
> the
> >> keyboard user chooses to expand or collapse the first level, that
> >> will
> be at
> >> the user's discretion.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What I am lacking is a tested JavaScript function or functions that
> >> use
> ARIA
> >> attributes to expand and collapse those menus. The menus are made
> >> up of unordered lists with links in each list. The developers would
> >> like to
> keep
> >> this template and not choose anything else as it will require so
> >> much
> work
> >> to redo this huge dropdown menu. I believe it is referred to as
> >> Mega
> menu.
> >> Please, correct me if I am wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a good sample, snippet or documentation I can
> >> use? I want to break it down to the developers and explain to them
> >> how to add
> it to
> >> their already created menu. I have not been able to find something
> useful on
> >> the web so far and I unfortunately don't have the time to recreate
> >> the wheels.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help or explanations will be highly appreciated.
> >>
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> >>
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> >Sandy
> >
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