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Re: Fourth rule of aria > aria-hidden
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Jan 23, 2018 11:22AM
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In my opinion, It is Dragon's responsibility to expose the accessible
name of an element, if different from its visible label, just like a
screen reader does.
Dragon has the same access to the accessible name of the element
through the accessibility tree as a screen reader.
The proposed WCAG 2.1 success criterion does not address the most
common situation, where controls have no visible text label at all but
are identified with icons.
I filed an issue against this success criterion on the WCAG GitHub page.
I really like the idea of better supporting speech recognition users,
but I also think that the software vendors have the responsibility to
use available technologies and content and translate that information
to the optimal end user experience.
We can't lay all the responsibility of that on the webpage author if
the software can do it.
On 1/23/18, Beranek, Nicholas via WebAIM-Forum
< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> I would not call that an issue with Dragon. Dragon is going by the
> accessible name and, naturally, aria-label will take precedence in most
> cases to provide it. When we declare issues, we make sure to mention that
> ARIA is not just about screen readers, but rather all assistive technologies
> that use the accessibility API, at least to some degree, including dictation
> programs such as Dragon.
>
> Dragon 13 started supporting ARIA in 2014. My understanding is that they
> support only what they need to, such as aria-labelledby, aria-label, ARIA
> roles such as "button", "link", "checkbox", and "radio". It doesn't appear
> to be impacted by ARIA properties such as aria-hidden. For example, I was
> able to perform a simple "click link" command on an element that I set to
> aria-hidden="true".
>
> We held a team discussion regarding the latest changes to WCAG 2.1 as we
> prepare for its official REC status hopefully in June. This reminds me of
> one of the new success criteria: SC 2.4.12 Label in Name (formerly
> Accessible Name). It states that the visible label must match the
> programmatic label. It benefits users with speech recognition programs since
> the aria-label and aria-labelledby attributes are supported and take
> precedence. This is already a best practice in our handbook, but it will be
> great to enforce it under a success criterion.
>
> Nick Beranek
> Capital One
>
>
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