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Re: mailchimp accessibility and Patreon accessibility

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From: chagnon@pubcom.com
Date: Apr 9, 2018 1:16PM

Being in the arts and design industries, I'm very familiar with Patreon. It was created by artists so that they could sell their work and retain copyright and monetary control over their intellectual content.

Basically, Patreon bypasses the traditional middlemen of agents, distributors, aggregators, etc. and lets artists retain more money from their work.

It's a great site for artists, as long as they don't use A T.

Much as I love my fellow artists, this group of people is tone deaf to accessibility. It really isn't on their "triage" list, as you found out.

Example: we're remediating a graphic design job/PDF for a design studio. For a list where they wanted checkmarks as the bullet character, they instead chose a funky looking square root sign. The designers want what they see, not what the actual character is, so we have to correct this so that screen reader users don't here ... "pack these items for your trip: square root toothbrush, square root clean underwear" etc.

It's not like they couldn't find a nice-looking Unicode checkmark to use instead of a math symbol.

They just don't have a clue about accessibility.

Robert, I hope you'll keep the dialogue going with them. In time, they'll come around. The question is why not do it now and ensure that 1. They maximize their business potential to include artists who use A T, 2. They maximize their revenue by including customers who use A T, and 3. They head off any potential ADA infringements.

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Subject: [WebAIM] mailchimp accessibility and Patreon accessibility

They talk a lot about users creating accessible emails, but when you, as a creator, start to get into the settings and otherwise, you find a lot of unlabeled buttons and even unlabeled links and unlabeled edit fields!
I'm a writer, blogger, and journalist, not a coder. I want to spend more time creating and less time with servers and the like. So does anybody have any mailchimp alternatives?


In another note, I am currently trying to get patreon to take accessibility seriously. So far, they have ignored me. I know many many people here don't use patreon or even know what it is, but I've lost money because of their inaccessibility.

Below is a post on someone else's attempt to make it accessible.

Patreon is a site that describes itself as the "best way for artists and creators to get sustainable income and connect with fans." This could be a great boon to many blind entrepreneurs, but to date the site has shown little interest in resolving its numerous accessibility shortcomings.
You can read this blog post on the topic:

https://incl.ca/patreon-and-accessibility/

Advocacy efforts are underway to encourage the company to do the right thing. To join a mailing list about these efforts, send a blank message to:
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